washing the plane

[60Guy]

I want you all to think about this.

My father in law just retired from GM he was a union worker that had the most time in the plant. (48 yrs) He has his electrical certifications from night school and one of the local Votech schools offerd him 70K to teach that subject.

I am sorry but to me... all of this aircraft cleaning crap......

ALL OF US PILOTS
ARE GETTING SCREWED IN EVERY CATEGORY!!!!!!!

 

[STAL6]

Look at the state that GM is in now. The union is driving them into the history books.
I want to work with people that will do whatever it takes to get the job done and no one is too good for any task.

Stal6

 

[G100driver]

I do not think that union decided to only build bohemoths and cars that people that people do not buy. Not to say that make it easy, but there is a reason why execs make huge dollars ... it is because they make "decisions."

As for pilots washing airplanes, sure, so long as they are properly compensated and their schedule is such that it still allows them to have a life.

 

[siucavflight]

The choices were skewed. I would never be asked to wash the aircraft, however I wash my own car all of the time, I love washing my car as a matter of fact.

I do not know of any corporate pilot out there that has to wash the aircraft.

 

[JokerFuel]

What's the big deal if you wash the plane? Especially if you fly very little each year as most small departments do. There will always be odd duties in small flight departments. As long as you don't work for, or with an a$$hole, who cares.

 

[jaxpilot]

We fly less than 200 hours a year and someone else washes and details the airplane.

The captain I fly with enlightened me on this- its one thing if WE decide to go out to the airplane and do some light cleaning one day just because we like the airplane owner, but its another for our boss (management company DO) to TELL us to do it. I agree with others that have made the point that other professionals- accountants, lawyers, secretaries, etc.- dont wash the bosses car, cut his lawn, etc, why should pilots be made to do more than a light cleaning unless they were also being additionally compensated?

All I do is a light vacuuming and use an Armor-All leather wipe on the seats and tables. Maybe use some PRIST on the windshield. That is it.

 

[MDP727]

This is a funny post. Ironically two months ago I was looking to purchase an aircraft cleaning company for sale for 1.4M. I laughed to myself at the thought of some pilots being beyond cleaning aircraft so this aircraft cleaning company could NET OVER 500K a year with verified returns. Somebody got to the company before I did.

 

[K.V.]

This is a funny post. Ironically two months ago I was looking to purchase an aircraft cleaning company for sale for 1.4M. I laughed to myself at the thought of some pilots being beyond cleaning aircraft so this aircraft cleaning company could NET OVER 500K a year with verified returns. Somebody got to the company before I did.

#1. How is that ironic? #2. Do you laugh just as hard at the thought of janitorial companies netting MILLIONS a year because those lazy executives are "beyond cleaning" the toilets and the garbage cans that they use everyday? Companies that wash aircraft bring in decent coin because, well lets face it, washing an aircraft is no simple task. You can't just grab any high school drop-out from the car wash and cut him/her loose on an airplane. You have to know what you're doing, and in certain respects it should be regarded as a maintenance function. Those companies have to be license and bonded, and the insurance they hold is not cheap either.

Be careful with your cynicism.

 

[STAL6]

lazy executives are "beyond cleaning" the toilets and the garbage cans that they use everyday?


Substitute the word pilot for executive and aircraft for garbage cans and your right on. Also change every day to a couple times a month.

It's alot more fun sitting around doing very little and complaining about the next trip.

Stal 6

 

[K.V.]

It's alot more fun sitting around doing very little and complaining about the next trip.

You don't get it Stal. It's not that we're too good to wash airplanes. It's that it's not what we do! For some, maybe it is. Maybe that's part of they're job description and they are compensated accordingly. But for most of us it's not. It's also not part of our job description to cut the grass, paint the hanger or countless other mundane duties around the airport.

After I come back from being away on a trip, I want to spend time with my family. I periodically re-visit the office/hanger to update the jepps, but you see, that is part of my job description. And by the way, flying for you may consist of you sitting around diddiling yourself, but for most of us there is a little more involved to it.

So speak for yourself.

 

[STAL6]

I guess anybody can justify most anything so if you want to hide behind "It's not my job" so be it, but Speaking for myself, I'd say your just lazy.
Being a professional pilot is not some magical mystery. Most everybody on this board knows what you do.

Stal6

 

[K.V.]

How would you know what being a professional pilot is. Go back to the maintenance board where at least there you'll have a chance of speaking intelligently.

 

[STAL6]

How would you know what being a professional pilot is. Go back to the maintenance board where at least there you'll have a chance of speaking intelligently.

This is the Corporate Board. I'm a corporate mechanic. I think I belong here. I forgot that your a pilot and It's all about you. Get over your self, your not as great as you think you are.

 

[K.V.]

You belong anywhere that you can speak intelligently about the subject matter... You do not belong here.

 

[STAL6]

Go mow your Chief Pilots grass.

 

[K.V.]

I rest my case.

 

[siucavflight]

This is the Corporate Board. I'm a corporate mechanic. I think I belong here. I forgot that your a pilot and It's all about you. Get over your self, your not as great as you think you are.

We have some great mechanics where I work, we all come together to get the job done. I would hate to have to work with someone like you, usually they keep the pilot hating mechanics at the airlines, and the good ones go corporate, guess you slipped through the cracks.

 

[say again]

I guess anybody can justify most anything so if you want to hide behind "It's not my job" so be it, but Speaking for myself, I'd say your just lazy.

You really don't have a clue!!!!

 

[jaxpilot]

Looks like Stal6 couldn't cut it in Instrument ground school. Gotta love natural selection...

BTW- Siucavflight- where do you get your avatars???

 

[STAL6]

Where I work we are a team. everybody is willing to do what ever it takes to get the job done. We have pride in are aircraft and we all (Mechanics, Line service, Flight Attendants and Pilots) want The A/C to look good. If an aircraft comes in late and is going out early everyone helps get it ready.

I glad I don't work with a bunch of primadonnas.

Stal6

 

[K.V.]

Where I work we are a team. everybody is willing to do what ever it takes to get the job done. We have pride in are aircraft and we all (Mechanics, Line service, Flight Attendants and Pilots) want The A/C to look good. If an aircraft comes in late and is going out early everyone helps get it ready.

I glad I don't work with a bunch of primadonnas.

Stal6

There's a big difference between tidying up the cabin of an airplane when the flight is over, and a full exterior scrub-down wash like we've been talking about here. I'd like to meet the flight attendants you have that are out doing the bright work on your airplanes.

I'm glad I don't work with a bunch of jacka$$ mechanics.

 

[STAL6]

Happy New years!

 

[siucavflight]

Same to you.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

Sorry for the old thread revival gents, but in light of the continued stagnation within the corporate aircraft world has anyone had a change of heart regarding washing the plane?

 

[K.V.]

Uhh...No!

 

[pushntin]

Sorry for the old thread revival gents, but in light of the continued stagnation within the corporate aircraft world has anyone had a change of heart regarding washing the plane?

Washing the plane now is better than the 2 am shift with Apu Nahasapeemapetilon at the Kwick-E-Mart.

 

[rice]

Last I heard, even G200 has taken to washing the plane AND wiping the struts!!!!! :laugh:

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Last I heard, even G200 has taken to washing the plane AND wiping the struts!!!!! :laugh:

Don't be taking your anger out on me charter boy!!!

You and you're little rubber friend been comparing notes on the best Oberoi Hotels?

Plus, I know if I tried washing the f'n plane I might slip and fall and need 8 months off to rest my back aside some great trout streams.

hummmm.......

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

I hate when that happens

 

[Packers]

Right now, we are so slow that if washing the airplane is what is needed then fine. It beats sitting around waiting for them to send you to unemployment. When it gets busy again we will hire it out.