VPS Mesaba station disaster

[SEVEN]

I flew both As and Bs all over the dirty south.

Don't miss the A's or B minuses.....Why do you only have 6000 hrs? Did you take TOWP for 4 years or something?

 

[ohplease!]

Are you a manager? or at least want to be a manager - "Worlds Premier Global Airline" !!

although you obviously despise anyone and anything
"management", you may not be a smart as you think....

seems like management might be the place to be:
-higher pay (in most positions)
-better benefits (travel, medical/dental, retirement, co. vehicle, etc.)
-home every night
-better bonuses
-usually when they figure a way to keep your pay down, theirs goes up
-blah
-blah
-blah

but hey what do they know? you've got it all figured out, right?:laugh:

 

[DoinTime]

Don't miss the A's or B minuses.....Why do you only have 6000 hrs? Did you take TOWP for 4 years or something?

I haven't updated my logbook in about three years.

 

[coonass]

Here is a fact for all who cares. I know for a fact at MLU station mesaba took over that station from ASA. ASA MGMT told the workers there if they took a job with mesaba that they would not get there severancy packages.

 

[Dubya]

No one is bashing any airline. The point here is that Mesaba moved in and fired all of the ASA guys. I would have thought that Mesaba would have at least retained some of the ASA staff to keep thngs going but they put all of their own folks in there. I am sure each of the Mesaba guys are good people but they took on this operation withought being ready. They made several PA's with gate changes and kept giving out the wrong flight numbers and gates. Someone tried to put the info on the monitors and locked those up so all the info on them became a day old. I have never heard more derogitory remarks from Delta customers in my life. I was absolutely embarassed for Delta. Maybe by the time I get of of MLOA in 2015 they may have gotten their act together and hopefully Delta did not loose to many customers.

Talk about comic relief, this would have been a good documentry for prime time!

Please allow me to remedy this.


Mesa sucks.

Now back to your regularly scheduled bickering.


W

 

[SEVEN]

I haven't updated my logbook in about three years.

Roger that.

 

[Speedtape]

Unfortunately these kinds of things are going to happen from time to time as we integrate 2 airlines into the World's Premier Global Airline. It's not a perfect system and it will take patience as employees on both ends learn the new system and become proficient with it. This does not excuse or justify the situation while passengers who are paying for a ticket and don't get a seat because a gate agent is clueless and behind the 8 ball.
Again, there will be growing pains along the way and I assume every station worker is doing their best to be as efficient as possible during these next few months of rapid change.

BS--they brought this on themselves. Guess what? There are other airlines in VPS that will be happy to take these customers. And the object of that drill was to provide better service????????

 

[WalterSobchak]

Please allow me to remedy this.


Mesa sucks.

Now back to your regularly scheduled bickering.


W

Winner, winner, chicken dinner...

 

[CptMurf]

No one is bashing any airline. The point here is that Mesaba moved in and fired all of the ASA guys.

How could XJ fire an ASA guy? My point was that there are internal forms to report and clean up these items. That would help the overall operation and maybe the next guy would not have the same problem. Bashing them here does nothing, but drag a good airlines name through the mud publically. There have been many screw ups during this transition, but I want to help these stations to understand what we are used to, what our manuals say, and how to get the operational performance we are used to.

 

[Simon Says]

I've never worked at Mesaba. This avatar represents both NW Airlinks as it was when I joined flight info in 2001. Mesaba operated the Saab and Avro and Pinnacle operated the Saab and CRJ. Its a shame you haven't been around long enough to know that.

You beat me to it, I was gonna say you never worked at Mesaba. You are just an old, old, old 9E guy that was probably domiciled in ALO at one time on a stinking J-31...or was it a J-41????

Although Seven should of known that, I think he has been around XJ for awhile.

 

[flyboyike]

BS--they brought this on themselves. Guess what? There are other airlines in VPS that will be happy to take these customers. And the object of that drill was to provide better service????????

By "other airlines", do you mean the 357th (or whatever) TFW with their F-15s?

 

[JustaNumber]

And the object of that drill was to provide better service????????

That was never the objective. The objective was significantly lower costs (sure can't beat min. wage), with at least marginal service levels that hopefully could eventually be improved upon. Of course, you usually get what you pay for....

 

[crj567]

Unfortunately these kinds of things are going to happen from time to time as we integrate 2 airlines into the World's Premier Global Airline. It's not a perfect system and it will take patience as employees on both ends learn the new system and become proficient with it. This does not excuse or justify the situation while passengers who are paying for a ticket and don't get a seat because a gate agent is clueless and behind the 8 ball.
Again, there will be growing pains along the way and I assume every station worker is doing their best to be as efficient as possible during these next few months of rapid change.

I think General Lee has a little competition.....

Unfortunately, there is only enough room here for one village idiot.

Looks like we will have to have a "TardFight."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWk6RgQbPVc

-Best get some training in-PeePants, Jr.

 

[Bluestreak]

Man,this has a familiarnring to it....From USA Today,3-14-07:

By Dawn Gilbertson, The Arizona Republic
LAS VEGAS — US Airways' expectations of business as usual the first day under a new computer system were quickly dashed Sunday morning with long lines of travelers forming after self-service check in kiosks failed.
The Tempe, Ariz., airline, which switched to a new computer reservations and ticketing system overnight, saw snaking lines in Charlotte, Philadelphia and Las Vegas. The airline says the kiosks are now working in Phoenix, Charlotte and Philadelphia but are still down in Las Vegas.

TODAY IN THE SKYWhat other media outlets are saying

US Airways spokesman Phil Gee said the airline does not expect many passengers to miss their flights in Las Vegas. He said Charlotte, the airline's busiest hub, had the longest lines and the most passengers that missed flights.
Sunday is the busiest travel day at McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas and always a zoo for passengers, but the lines Sunday stretched out through two doors and wrapped around inside the terminal.

 

[Speedtape]

By "other airlines", do you mean the 357th (or whatever) TFW with their F-15s?

AA,USAIR THEN OTHER OPTIONS--AVIS,HERTZ,NATIONAL,THRIFTY

 

[Speedtape]

That was never the objective. The objective was significantly lower costs (sure can't beat min. wage), with at least marginal service levels that hopefully could eventually be improved upon. Of course, you usually get what you pay for....

According the RAH press release--better service

 

[Tarzan]

Unfortunately these kinds of things are going to happen from time to time as we integrate 2 airlines into the World's Premier Global Airline. It's not a perfect system and it will take patience as employees on both ends learn the new system and become proficient with it. This does not excuse or justify the situation while passengers who are paying for a ticket and don't get a seat because a gate agent is clueless and behind the 8 ball.
Again, there will be growing pains along the way and I assume every station worker is doing their best to be as efficient as possible during these next few months of rapid change.

You obviously don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. You can take that patience thing and stick up your a$$. Delta did this and a bunch of great stations are being turned into inept ones at the expense of people who've had jobs there for years. How in the F*** can a company bid for a station when a brand new operation at first year wages will trump costs for an established station? It has nothing to do with growing pains or anything of that nature. It is plain old dumbass bean counters not being able to see past the edge of their desks. Once these stations break a plane or two, all that "saved" money is gone. You are a lame assed apologist.

I'll certainly be writing up everything I see at these stations where my company once ran the show. And I am glad most of them have refused to train their replacements.

 

[CptMurf]

I'll certainly be writing up everything I see at these stations where my company once ran the show. And I am glad most of them have refused to train their replacements.

I think this is a good thing. And I will be writing up everything I see at the inept stations I see. This will be good for all of us. Spot On.


On a side note: Do you think that their refusal to train their replacements only made the transition worse?

 

[CptMurf]

Once these stations break a plane or two, all that "saved" money is gone.

Seems like some southern maintenance bases are taking care of that on their own.

 

[JustaNumber]

According the RAH press release--better service

The fact that they put that in a press release does not mean it was the objective. Only "Mr World's Premiere Global Airline" believes that.