Vision Airlines to fly struck Spirit Flights

[BigMeat]

He can just read it off of your wallet:

Link (NSFW)

Lol. How you doing bud? Call me sometime

 

[Skyboy722]

In an email from the Spirit MEC today:

Fellow Pilots:

This is your Strike Committee Update for Tuesday, June 8, 2010—three days remain before the Strike Deadline.

REGARDING VISION AIRLINES:​

Your Strike Committee has been in direct contact with Vision Airlines management. Vision management verified that they were contacted by Spirit regarding picking up flying after the deadline, and that Spirit’s request was refused. We have credible, verifiable assurances from Vision management that Vision Airlines WILL NOT be flying under contract for Spirit during a lawful strike. We have received copies of two memos they sent to their pilots stating the same.

Can we please put this thread to bed now?

Good choice Vision!!!!

I wonder if Spirit management was surprised by what seems to be a blanket refusal to touch touch that flying... They're losing leverage by the minute!:smash:

 

[Headfake14]

I'm sure Spirit is talking with others...TRYING to find someone to fly their routes, but most others are probably saying no as well. Of course, Spirit mgmt won't let on if they keep getting the door shut in their faces.

Good luck fellas.

 

[Draginass]

Considering only the business aspect of it, I can't see where another airline would think making a few buck off Spirit would be worth the backlash and future problems associated with being a scab airline.

 

[thunderworm]

I am sure several airlines are preparing themselves to be able to take away some of their PX and routes during the strike. Which is way better than flying for them. I hope management folds quickly and everyone can go back to work at a decent rate.

 

[terryhfly]

Republic is going to buy Spirit and add them to our little party.

 

[FLYBOYMATTHEW]

Thanks, but not interested in blanket parties.

 

[Anonymous2]

Maybe Ryanair (not ryan int'l) will hop across the pond and fly all the routes. lol.

 

[blackjack]

ALPA VP Paul Rice alludes to the possibility of Caribbean Airlines flying Spirit's struck work about 6 minutes in to this speech http://www.alpa.tv/ALPAChannelPlaye...es-Speech-To-The-106th-Executive-Board--.aspx

Caribbean Airline's 19 aircraft plus the Air Jamaica 6 airbii they just aquired may be part of a plan to partially cover Spirit's 31 arbii.

Hope it costs Spirit plenty if they try to break the strike. The erosion of pilot compensation will continue until we all stand together. It's time for ALPA to publicly establish minimum compensation for all passenger ops from any size aircraft to A380 and the other pilot unions should endorse the scale. Under the current RLA, all we can legally do is gripe if an airline is below scale and attack their safety and integrity. We need to change that.

 

[B727FA]

While I am no lawyer, I believe labor laws are such that you can not be fired for refusing to cross a legal picket line which is exactly what you would be doing.

Actually, that's only at your carrier while they are out. IE, a crew member can refuse to fly on a MX-struck A/C for their own safety and not be terminated (at least get their job back, the like NWA FA who refused to fly on SCAB maintained NWA a/c). One crew-member out of how many who "maned up" to use someone else's words...

Granted, I know the NWA MX Union had no lack of haters, but labor is labor...Unity (or lack thereof) is Unity. Just hope nobody wants MX to stand up for them!

Legally, a non-union crew member can't refuse to fly struck work--ya gots no rights, don'cha know? Morally? That's between you and your Maker--and the Union.

 

[B727FA]

When I talk to him it usually sounds as if he's contemplating going to the hardware store to buy a rope for himself.

Can he afford that?

 

[B727FA]

But in this case where Vision would fly a Spirit route say FLL-MYR where Vision does not fly that route and they start flying that route because they sign an agreement with Spirit management to fly that route only during a strike then they would be SCABs.

Ahhh...therein lies the rub.

 

[B727FA]

Good for Vision MGT and pilots for saying, NO!

 

[Mike man]

Ahhh...therein lies the rub.

I get it...but I don't get your post

 

[hawkerflyer]

Is Falcon Air planning on flying Spirit struck work? There's a flight plan filed for the San Salvador charter today KFLL-MYSM-KFLL as NKS2098 & NKS2099 with an MD83. Who else would it be? Good luck Spirit guys, you stayed together and had the nads.

 

[Mike man]

Is Falcon Air planning on flying Spirit struck work? There's a flight plan filed for the San Salvador charter today KFLL-MYSM-KFLL as NKS2098 & NKS2099 with an MD83. Who else would it be? Good luck Spirit guys, you stayed together and had the nads.

looks like that is the plan...our FAA FSDO told us they will be observing 100% of all flights operated by or for Spirit Airlines during the strike...I hope that airplane is airworthy.

 

[flynryan15]

Is Falcon Air planning on flying Spirit struck work? There's a flight plan filed for the San Salvador charter today KFLL-MYSM-KFLL as NKS2098 & NKS2099 with an MD83. Who else would it be? Good luck Spirit guys, you stayed together and had the nads.

There needs to be a very vocal picket line in plane view of the cockpit!!!

They flew some Spirit flights on Friday, I found them on flightaware

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Good thing I've only had ice cream.

You sir (loosely), are an {I'll let our president curse}. The pilots of ATA, many on their 3rd or 4th ALPA carrier, had nothing to do with ATA's demise. We worked. We gave. We sacrificed. We led. We suggested. We offered. We proposed. Nada. We were in the way. It was a management decision.

ALPA is NOT a union. If it were, it would make sure the ALPA pilots at ATA, Aloha, Champion (who am I forgetting?) get first crack at any available jobs. That's what a "union" does. I got my own insurance.

ALPA's failings are it's own greed. It cares nothing about it's membership so long as it collects it's dues. It assures it's own existence, by being the largest unio....er... pilot association out there.

Whether there's a strike or not, NKALPA will settle. It'll be a draw, at best, but will not improve their lot, much. Not until the NK pilots are, 50%+1, prepared to stay unemployed for any length of time if not permanently. I bet very few are.

The industry is a joke and needs to completely implode.

Hal,
I have been a member of 3 different Unions. My point was the ATA guys had no say in how management ran ATA into BK. My position was and is, APLA is not a Real Union, if it was, an unemployed pilot could go into any local chapter and be put on the roster according to his initial entry into the union date. Works for carpenters, plumbers and electricians as well as a bunch more. You might note I have always been a Unionista, and pretty militant at that. The pilots in this country have the economy by the balls, they just don't realize it. A hundred thousand or so pilots control all long haul passenger/freight operations and if we were truly organized would have more power than any single group of individuals, including politicians, we could dictate ALL AIR TRANSPORTATION, and many if not all transportation details.
PBR

 

[CX880]

Hal,
I have been a member of 3 different Unions. My point was the ATA guys had no say in how management ran ATA into BK. My position was and is, APLA is not a Real Union, if it was, an unemployed pilot could go into any local chapter and be put on the roster according to his initial entry into the union date. Works for carpenters, plumbers and electricians as well as a bunch more. You might note I have always been a Unionista, and pretty militant at that. The pilots in this country have the economy by the balls, they just don't realize it. A hundred thousand or so pilots control all long haul passenger/freight operations and if we were truly organized would have more power than any single group of individuals, including politicians, we could dictate ALL AIR TRANSPORTATION, and many if not all transportation details.
PBR

Wow.. You've picked the best place to be a rambling idiot walking around terminals preaching about unionism, Skywest. Hows that working out?

 

[LearLove]

Wow.. You've picked the best place to be a rambling idiot walking around terminals preaching about unionism, Skywest. Hows that working out?

better yet a scumbag GJ pilot (read you CX) telling any pilot something about unionism.