Virgin America cutting capacity during Winter, offering leaves

[UM#1]

Latest Rumor is something between VX and Frontier. Execs from both companies spotted at each others headquarters, including Branson.

 

[e=mc2]

VA is going to merge with a Regional. Let the cash drain begin.

 

[clickclickboom]

Yeah I'd have to raise the BS flag on this one too. Most of our checkairmen are ex-Aloha, ATA, Midwest, Champion, and [insert any other failed major airline here]. They've been around the block for 2 decades, some more. They know the reality of airlines and this industry, and are not delusional like the above posts makes it sound like.

No No not BS I dont work for VA... I was operating from jfk to FLL or MCO if i remember totally full VA CHK AMN on the seat I am assuming he was a chk airman. Older guy maybe 55 years old real character.. Told the whole story of golden greatness.

 

[Flyer1015]

I flew with that captain the day he was supposed to start class at Hawaiian. The real story is he sat down with the SFO chief pilot who shared some up coming info with him that is not public. He has not told anyone what that info is, and plenty of us have tried to get it out of him. The rumor that he stayed because he would be more senior post Hawaiian merge is just a bad rumor.

That's just dumb. I flew with a VA pilot who had been with Aloha, he mentioned how he had gotten hired at another airline and was going to leave Aloha, but the CP at his base convinced him to stay because good things were coming, and that everything was going to be fine. 6 months later Aloha went under.


Not sure it's a wise idea to make career decisions based on words coming out of some CPs mouth.

 

[NEDude]

Ne Dude is almost as delusional as the senior check airman that was on our jumpseat a few months back from VA.. He told stories of executive meetings regarding the unlimited revenue potentials, back door revenue funneling into massive future growth even told tales of check airman meetings regarding the addition of the A330 and how it was a " Done Deal" with the manuals being rewritten.


This guy was obviously sniffing glue

So tell me smart guy, what about my comments about our financial problems being due to poor route planning are delusional? Seems quite reasonable to me. Why do you think VX has had financial problems? Is it because we have a great route structure?

 

[XJAVRO]

That's just dumb. I flew with a VA pilot who had been with Aloha, he mentioned how he had gotten hired at another airline and was going to leave Aloha, but the CP at his base convinced him to stay because good things were coming, and that everything was going to be fine. 6 months later Aloha went under.


Not sure it's a wise idea to make career decisions based on words coming out of some CPs mouth.

Never said it was a wise decision. I was only passing on the real story.

 

[cameltoad]

now, if you can't make money with a 320,,,,soooo let's get an even bigger one?

 

[clickclickboom]

So tell me smart guy, what about my comments about our financial problems being due to poor route planning are delusional? Seems quite reasonable to me. Why do you think VX has had financial problems? Is it because we have a great route structure?

I really cant tell you because you have always been such a VA cheerleader that I see your avatar and just skip over it. Before you get your panties in a wad let me be clear:

There is nothing i would like to see more than to see VA go under and every single one of you lose your jobs before they hit $700,000,000 in losses that way at least its not a billion.

Let me clarify more: I work for jetblue. Jetblue is a POS airline that lies to its employees is wildly profitible has some science experiment called the Direct Relationship that is a lie and has massive income potential for management but nothing for the employee. There is NOTHING I would like to see more than for my own airline to go out of business.

Jetblue had good beginnings but now is just becoming an industry cancer along with companies like va.

I will happily start over

 

[n757st]

I really cant tell you because you have always been such a VA cheerleader that I see your avatar and just skip over it. Before you get your panties in a wad let me be clear:

There is nothing i would like to see more than to see VA go under and every single one of you lose your jobs before they hit $700,000,000 in losses that way at least its not a billion.

Let me clarify more: I work for jetblue. Jetblue is a POS airline that lies to its employees is wildly profitible has some science experiment called the Direct Relationship that is a lie and has massive income potential for management but nothing for the employee. There is NOTHING I would like to see more than for my own airline to go out of business.

Jetblue had good beginnings but now is just becoming an industry cancer along with companies like va.

I will happily start over

Man, that is one lame post. Wish your own airline out? Awesome, don't join the OC please. Why did you want a job at blue in the first place with that attitude?

 

[bri5150]

I really cant tell you because you have always been such a VA cheerleader that I see your avatar and just skip over it. Before you get your panties in a wad let me be clear:

There is nothing i would like to see more than to see VA go under and every single one of you lose your jobs before they hit $700,000,000 in losses that way at least its not a billion.

Let me clarify more: I work for jetblue. Jetblue is a POS airline that lies to its employees is wildly profitible has some science experiment called the Direct Relationship that is a lie and has massive income potential for management but nothing for the employee. There is NOTHING I would like to see more than for my own airline to go out of business.

Jetblue had good beginnings but now is just becoming an industry cancer along with companies like va.

I will happily start over

Wow, so dramatic. I would like to hear specifics about how VA is an industry cancer. I am not looking for citiations, but some specific information that compares us to other airlines in our situation would be great. I expect to hear low pay, but I want numbers that compare most of the airbus operators in the country. I have seen them and they are not industry leading, but I don't see VA cancer either.

 

[Flyer1015]

I really cant tell you because you have always been such a VA cheerleader that I see your avatar and just skip over it. Before you get your panties in a wad let me be clear:

There is nothing i would like to see more than to see VA go under and every single one of you lose your jobs before they hit $700,000,000 in losses that way at least its not a billion.

Let me clarify more: I work for jetblue. Jetblue is a POS airline that lies to its employees is wildly profitible has some science experiment called the Direct Relationship that is a lie and has massive income potential for management but nothing for the employee. There is NOTHING I would like to see more than for my own airline to go out of business.

Jetblue had good beginnings but now is just becoming an industry cancer along with companies like va.

I will happily start over

Then just quit. Or are you just the tough-talk internet guy?

 

[btrthn5n5]

I really cant tell you because you have always been such a VA cheerleader that I see your avatar and just skip over it. Before you get your panties in a wad let me be clear:

There is nothing i would like to see more than to see VA go under and every single one of you lose your jobs before they hit $700,000,000 in losses that way at least its not a billion.

Let me clarify more: I work for jetblue. Jetblue is a POS airline that lies to its employees is wildly profitible has some science experiment called the Direct Relationship that is a lie and has massive income potential for management but nothing for the employee. There is NOTHING I would like to see more than for my own airline to go out of business.

Jetblue had good beginnings but now is just becoming an industry cancer along with companies like va.

I will happily start over

Then grow a back bone and quit tomorrow so you can "happily start over". If you show up for your next trip, then do it knowing you're a lying idiot.

Unless you really aren't this stupid and were just trolling for some flame action, in that case... you got me.

 

[pilotpm]

I really cant tell you because you have always been such a VA cheerleader that I see your avatar and just skip over it. Before you get your panties in a wad let me be clear:

There is nothing i would like to see more than to see VA go under and every single one of you lose your jobs before they hit $700,000,000 in losses that way at least its not a billion.

Let me clarify more: I work for jetblue. Jetblue is a POS airline that lies to its employees is wildly profitible has some science experiment called the Direct Relationship that is a lie and has massive income potential for management but nothing for the employee. There is NOTHING I would like to see more than for my own airline to go out of business.

Jetblue had good beginnings but now is just becoming an industry cancer along with companies like va.

I will happily start over

Spoken like a person that has never had to "start over". Having had to start over seven times including after a major airline shutdown, I would NEVER wish it on anyone. You are either a troll, a tool or trully heartless. Whatever, I feel sorry for those that have to share a cockpit with you and I'm glad I don't have to.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I really cant tell you because you have always been such a VA cheerleader that I see your avatar and just skip over it. Before you get your panties in a wad let me be clear:

There is nothing i would like to see more than to see VA go under and every single one of you lose your jobs before they hit $700,000,000 in losses that way at least its not a billion.

Let me clarify more: I work for jetblue. Jetblue is a POS airline that lies to its employees is wildly profitible has some science experiment called the Direct Relationship that is a lie and has massive income potential for management but nothing for the employee. There is NOTHING I would like to see more than for my own airline to go out of business.

Jetblue had good beginnings but now is just becoming an industry cancer along with companies like va.

I will happily start over

You are very weird.

 

[clickclickboom]

Okay just got back from rehab where were we?