Van ride with another crew, interesting comment...

[kj6991]

Earl Williams.

I really agree 100 percent. If you read all my previous post, I have yet to bash anyone. Never, ever. But for someone like Tex Aviator to post such a pointless, toolbox story like that really puts it into perspective. Especially from a new hire gold seal. I mean, one in a million right. If the poor guy could only get laid every once in a while, instead of posting a van ride home story about a Mesa crew on a Friday night.

Hey Tex A,viator, Craftsman has a sale on toolbox accessories, go buy the set you'll need it d!psh!t. Why don't you buy the entire red barn with it to store your Toolshed you !d!ot. And in the mean time, why don't you post another XR profile along with a "getty-up" article about your airline you just started work for, which I respect a lot, but idiots like you tell stories of bogus nature. But stories like that make you feel well b/c of your company, when the truth of it is, you have an A for Amateur stamped on your forehead the minute you open your mouth, and the time after that as well. Your Gold Seal status may become important one day, as might mine, b/c i have it as well.

I can remember a year or so back when you were out of a job a looking, and things were not so golden and since you've been on at your company now, things seem very yippy don't they? Call me what you may, b/c it will just go in one ear and out the other, but don't posting pointless van stories about payrates to make fun of another airline as it only reflects poorly upon your already obvious Toolsheding ignorance.

 

[turbodriver]

By the way, all regional pay suck, best of luck.

My regional paycheck doesn't suck......

Cause I have a pair.

 

[Spinplate]

w o r d

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA.

Come to IAH next month, I'll slap you upside your head with my tool. Might even give ya a good ole country ass whoopin', you some bitch.

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

you fly for regionals they are all the same. Give it a few years. your all losers

Your implies possession, like you have your cock in your hand. You're is a contraction of you and are, meaning "you are", like you're a retard.

 

[mightybeechdrvr]

Gold Seal A$$ Clown

What a worthless A$$ Clown! Gold Seal & All. He will be on this same board in 10 years complaining about XJet & bitchin about why he never made it out of the regionals. Probably will still have the "Gold Seal" label on!

 

[DashTrash400]

Heh.

Reminds me of a van ride that took place about a month ago, also with a Mesa crew. Our CA casually asked them what's new @ Mesa, and the FO launched into a fairly lengthy discussion of their growth, particularly the new Delta flying, and even proclaimed that his upgrade would come quicker than he thought. I kept my mouth shut until I could stand it no longer, and then offhandedly mentioned, "I hear Comair is furloughing...what's up with that?" This kid actually had the audacity to say "Oh, their costs are too high." His captain looked sick when he said it. I mumbled something like "Of course, they actually get a liveable wage," and then shut up before he sic'd pro standards on me.

Now: Are all Mesa pilots such tools? 'Course not. The Mesa captain looked pretty uncomfortable with his FO's gloating, for starters. I will say that any airline with a low pay/quick upgrade situation tends to attract a lot more pilots with this kid's attitude than a higher paid/longer upgrade carrier like, say, Comair.

One final note on Mesa. The "It's not us, it's our CEO!" argument doesn't really hold water. The airplanes don't fly unless you fly them; I have yet to see a serious effort among the Mesa pilot group to stand up to JO, long after it's become apparent what he is. Now if you think fast growth makes crappy payscales worthwhile, fine, you're allowed that opinion, nobody is requiring you to shoulder the load of bettering the profession. Just don't turn around and pretend that the conditions at Mesa are all JO's fault and the pilot group has nothing to do with them.

 

[Jack Mehoff]

ginchblaster! wow now that is a truely awesome avatar!! respek knuckles to you brutha!

 

[cargojunkie]

I've been there done that... The pilots I worked with were all miserable. Everybody hated life. If you are married and have kids take a good look at what you put them through. Why are you stressed you missed your commute home again? because your home life is wrecked and on the verge of divorce. The other option would be to move your family every time a base closes. I was displaced 3 times in 2 years. Air wisconsin, they call themselves the best regional and that's a bunch of bs.

 

[Megadeth]

I think I almost taxied over a -900 the other day.

Yea, it's hard to see those little pea shooters under the nose. Maybe I should sit on my wallet so I can see better.

 

[msuspartans24]

you fly for regionals they are all the same. Give it a few years. your all losers

and you fly for?

 

[msuspartans24]

I think I almost taxied over a -900 the other day.

Dude you are so COOL!!

I hope I can be as cool as you some day......A$$CLOWN!

 

[Jack Mehoff]

I think I almost taxied over a -900 the other day.

wow what a reply do you feel big and tuff now? you go on feel'n real good about your self now big guy.

 

[Dumbluck]

You know I fly a plane bigger than a -11, I think your over-compenstating. see the top of ya in PANC

 

[Relic01]

I just don't get it, I really, really don't. Almost every time I read a post on this forum, the constant need of some to continue to bash other pilot groups is just plain sickening. This mentality is the sole reason that we pilots apparently can't even walk by each other in the terminals and cordially greet each other in a humane manner. Trust me, I try every time. Just because I work for a different company than you, I'm somewhat inferior?...less qualified?

What makes any one you, Texan Aviator in particular, feel good about yourself in posting something like this? If your encounter was true, and it very well may be, do you really think that attitude personifies the Mesa pilot group? I'm envisioning that situation occuring, and I'm sure the Mesa Captain shook his head in disbelief, and gave that FO a VERY dissaproving stare.

You can say what you want about Mesa pilots. If it makes you feel good and better about yourself, than by all means continue. But what good does it do? Seriously? In the long run, are we as pilots going to gain more by continuing to beat each other down, and claim superiority by the mere basis that we work for different companies? Or maybe...just maybe...we can start to understand that we're all alike (we are!), doing the same thing, complaining about the same issues, and try to make this a better industry altogther. Ultimately, all of this fighting amongst each other, and "my company is better than yours" attitude feeds RIGHT into management's hands.

One other thing...I'll still be the guy walking through the terminal with a smile on my face, and will say "hello, how are you?" to each and every one of you that passes my direction. If you feel a need to avoid me due to my Mesa badge, then so be it.

Amen brother.

 

[AvroSucks]

Mesa bashes PNCL

You never know who you are around... I was non rev'ing with my family and we just happened to be discussing the CRJ, mind you I wasn't in uniform, when a Mesa capt in uniform jumped into our conversation UNSOLICATED..... He goes on to state that PNCL is undeserving of any CRJ's and we begin to get into a disagrement over whether PNCL had 50 seaters or not... He insisted PNCL did not have 50 seaters and the only reason they had 44 was they whored themselves out on pay...
And then he goes on how DC 9 FO's hate all red tail RJ' drivers... XJ included

I just thought it was interesting all the negative red tail comments from a Mesa driver... uke:

 

[ohplease!]

What can you say about Mesa...had a mesa pilot comment on me being too hard on the brakes today

Well, were you on the brakes too hard? I see it all the time in the RJ. Drives me nuts!

 

[hotwing]

Anais Nin,

I'm with you here. I was thinking the same thing. I've always though Tex Aviator was a dork from his posts and such. I don't know why, just have. He always has some "highlight" remark about jetlinkin it and i just have a funny feeling he is a nerd. Granted, I do feel he works for a fine company.

TA you said in your post your crew was the only other crew in the van and that "someone asked what are the pay rates for the 900 like." But i can only assume it was you or your crew that asked about pay rates to the Mesa crew after a long day.

Saying the 900 is huge by the Mesa guy might have been the most crafty thing to say. But your the guy that has to post EMB-145XR and Gold Seal on your profile and post yippy Expressjet articles when your right out of training, and frankly, nobody really cares your in an XR or that your Gold Seal. You could be furloughed and out of a job tomorrow and working along side that same Mesa crew 3 months later. Toolbox

wow -- this guy burned your butt!

 

[hotwing]

TEXAN AVIATOR vbmenu_register("postmenu_826321", true);
Sickest Bull



Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 774
Civ/Mil: Civilian
A/C Flown: John Deere, EMB-145XR
Ratings: COM, CFI-AIM Gold Seal, AGI
Curr Position: 121
Total Time: Some


what about the 135, the 145... why just the XR -- I thought you guys flew all the models of that toilet tube...

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Relic.. no one said you were inferior..

Maybe they dont talk to you because your contract ruined our negotiations in our last contract... or maybe because your company is flying flights while comair is downsizing.

And most of that is because you failed to take a stand... you failed to stand up for yourselves and everyone else in this industry. If it was me, I wouldnt be able to hold my head off my shoulders!

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Yeah,

what about the 135, the 145... why just the XR -- I thought you guys flew all the models of that toilet tube...

Yeah that's right, jump on the bandwagon! Oh, I think you had "Gold Seal" in your profile too. What did you change it before you posted dickcheese? :angryfire

I only fly the XR, I'm just badass like that.:erm:

 

[mozzer]

TA, you are a serious embarrassment to yourself and the fine folks at Expressjet. You don't know when to shut up.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Dude you are so COOL!!

I hope I can be as cool as you some day......A$$CLOWN!

I hope so too.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

The subject should remain on course. Look at airlinepilotcentral.com and Mesa. How f'ing pathetic and not even profit sharing. I guess that all goes to Orstein along with pride, balls, motorcyles, etc.

 

[jetalc]

There may be a lot of really good guys at Mesa, but no a lot of smart ones.

And you know this how? What a doof. This has to take the cake for the "Moronic Flamebait Post of the Day." You feel better now? Do you have something intelligent to add to the thread?

 

[Fly2Scuba]

And you know this how? What a doof. This has to take the cake for the "Moronic Flamebait Post of the Day." You feel better now? Do you have something intelligent to add to the thread?

And you took the time to respond to it. Point! And by the way, it's more than Flamebait; the sad part is, it be the truth.

 

["Luke"]

I jumpseat on Mesa often, and have nothing but good things to say about the crews. They are always accommodating and look like they are having a good time. The flight attendants are young, but they are the only flirtatious ones I've seen in a while (maybe they're just that desperate). I occasionally BBQ with a Mesa CA (neighbor) and when we talk flying, it seems like he has a job just like the rest of us, except he's not worried about being furloughed.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

I jumpseat on Mesa often, and have nothing but good things to say about the crews. They are always accommodating and look like they are having a good time. The flight attendants are young, but they are the only flirtatious ones I've seen in a while (maybe they're just that desperate). I occasionally BBQ with a MesaCA (neighbor) and when we talk flying, it seems like he has a job just like the rest of us, except he's not worried about being furloughed.

Again the point is their idiots. They be having a good time, but either they are total aviation dorks with little life outside of flying, they are moronic for not getting paid properly, or they are living in fantasy land convincing themselves that life is grand under JO's watch. They also may be good guys, but if he's not worried about being furloughed, I hope he doesn't carry that idea with pride. They are many other pilots that have been underbid by Mesa, partly due to inferior contract conditions. $1.20 hour per diem. F that. 2.5% 401K match. F that. 8 days off reserve. F that. 190 rates. You get the picture.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/content/view/74/18/

And with those 190 rates and contract conditions, not is Mesa severly undercutting the so called "regionals", but also the legacy and large national carriers.

 

["Luke"]

He’ll probably see the light once he moves on. He’s in the hiring pool at a major freight company now. That could be why he doesn't talk bad about it, he knows it's behind him.

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

I don't see why so many people think all Mesa pilots are tools. Only 78% of the non-probationary May 2003 pilot group and everyone hired thereafter are tools. Oh yeah, and Duane Worthless for signing the POS that has caused the destruction of the pilot profession as we know it!