USA Jet DC-9 down in Saltillo

[satpak77]

I told his father he has a job waiting for him when he is ready to come back.

My hat is off to you Pilotypi....very professional and I am sure the family appreciates your support.

Also, Not my business, but are you down there "TDY" as a liasion to the Mexican authorities or are you just on a regular trip and happen to be in town.

see ya

 

[heilhaavir]

Can anybody translate this?

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1648673975?bclid=1452199629&bctid=1659857952

 

[Way2Broke]

Can anybody translate this?

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1648673975?bclid=1452199629&bctid=1659857952

I sent it to a friend of mine that was a Spanish Major and is a pilot. Not word for word, but here is the summary:

At first, he's describing what he's seeing on the security camera.
Then he's saying he thinks it was a loss of control, maybe a major malfunction of the flight controls.
He's asked why they didn't communicate the problem, and he responds that due to the low altitude and low controllability, the crew was focused on flying the plane. He's describing the "normal" communications between the plane and ATC. He said it's very unusual that they didn't report any problems, if they were having them earlier. That if he were having such problems earlier, he would have reported them to ATC.... that's about it.

The guy speaking is the former president of the Mexican pilot Union, as far as he can tell and is a Captain somewhere down there.

As far as I know this guy has nothing to do with the investigation and is about as reliable as CNN's "expert pilots." So I wouldn't read to much into it. I know it's hard, but the NTSB will let us know what happened in due time.

 

[satpak77]

I sent it to a friend of mine that was a Spanish Major and is a pilot. Not word for word, but here is the summary:

At first, he's describing what he's seeing on the security camera.
Then he's saying he thinks it was a loss of control, maybe a major malfunction of the flight controls.
He's asked why they didn't communicate the problem, and he responds that due to the low altitude and low controllability, the crew was focused on flying the plane. He's describing the "normal" communications between the plane and ATC. He said it's very unusual that they didn't report any problems, if they were having them earlier. That if he were having such problems earlier, he would have reported them to ATC.... that's about it.

The guy speaking is the former president of the Mexican pilot Union, as far as he can tell and is a Captain somewhere down there.

As far as I know this guy has nothing to do with the investigation and is about as reliable as CNN's "expert pilots." So I wouldn't read to much into it. I know it's hard, but the NTSB will let us know what happened in due time.

I second the above. I don't know who the commentator is, maybe he flies a RV-6 in Mexico, but he opionates a little too much on why the crash occurred, one is "aileron failure"

:crying:

He does explain how Houston Center hands them off to MTY Center then to MMIO tower and no problems were reported.

 

[heilhaavir]

Thks Way2

 

[USA Jet Pilot]

I expect to see majority of our pilots donate to Lonnie's family, I know he would if it was you and your family suffering.

 

[SWA/FO]

Anybody know if LM had any life insurance? USA Jet gives something, right? How many kids does he have? 2 - I think??

 

[Hocus Focus]

Looks like there are 34693 members of this website, just image if every member donated 10.00 bucks to his widow and children. It would make a vast difference in their well being. The cost of a few beers at most aviation watering holes.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

A few other points

I sent it to a friend of mine that was a Spanish Major and is a pilot. Not word for word, but here is the summary:

At first, he's describing what he's seeing on the security camera.
Then he's saying he thinks it was a loss of control, maybe a major malfunction of the flight controls.
He's asked why they didn't communicate the problem, and he responds that due to the low altitude and low controllability, the crew was focused on flying the plane. He's describing the "normal" communications between the plane and ATC. He said it's very unusual that they didn't report any problems, if they were having them earlier. That if he were having such problems earlier, he would have reported them to ATC.... that's about it.

The guy speaking is the former president of the Mexican pilot Union, as far as he can tell and is a Captain somewhere down there.

As far as I know this guy has nothing to do with the investigation and is about as reliable as CNN's "expert pilots." So I wouldn't read to much into it. I know it's hard, but the NTSB will let us know what happened in due time.

I watched the tape and listened to the Captain commentator, I am not sure if that is part of the union or who he works for. ASPA is the ALPA-type union in Mexico. Maybe that is one of the local chapters.

The Captain did mention some of the normal reporting points Monterey and one other point before that. He stated that they did not report those points. He also made some comments on the trajectory and angle in degrees in relation to the ground and the angle at impact. He suggested that it was most likely a mechanical failure of the flight controls.

I did not want to comment here. My thoughts and prayers go out to LM and his family. I flew briefly at USA Jet and sat at the revision table in the break room with him a couple of times.

Jeff

 

[N817AA]

He has 3 children.

 

[Way2Broke]

Fifth Third Bankcorp

Attn: Kiernan O’Donohue

c/o Lon McIntosh Memorial Fund


43710 Ford Road

Canton, MI 48188
​

Every little bit helps.... As a moderator I challenge every member here to donate something, even if it is just 10 bucks. He has 3 children, and while nothing can replace him, I know that later in life they will remember that their dad, the pilot, was surrounded other great pilots that would give to a complete stranger's family in time of need. Give what you can!

 

[Way2Broke]

I expect to see majority of our pilots donate to Lonnie's family, I know he would if it was you and your family suffering.

People are getting ready to see just how tight of a group we are at USA Jet! We are like a big family, although a bit dysfunctional at times, you can bet your butt that we have each others backs. There is not a single pilot among us that can't afford to give something.

 

[TWA]

As dumb a question as this may sound, who do we our write checks to when sending donations?

To make everyone at FI aware of the fund, you could place an announcement at the top of all the forums with the info. Just a thought...

 

[Princedietrich]

Any idea if there's an EFT or Paypal-style option for making a donation?

 

[Hocus Focus]

I second that motion, if we could put the info under every topic we could potentially raise alot. If someone could contact the bank or the manager of the fund a paypal account can be setup very easy. You can even send paypal to email addresses. In this trying time in our industry, it is moments like these where we need to stand together and stand tall and do the honorable and respectful thing for a guy that lost his life merely doing what WE ALL love to do in support of taking care of our families. The FO is a dear friend of mine's and classmate from JAL and I also knew many guys on the latest Kalitta accident and these disasters strike close to home, none of us are guaranteed tomorrow.
COUNT ME IN!!

 

[pilotyip]

F/O is in the states, and he has recognized and talked with his family. That has to be a good sign for recovery.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi.

Fantastic. I am so glad he is doing very well-we hadn't heard too much lately on him.

God Bless.

cliff
LRD

 

[cherry20's]

Has anyone figured out a way to donate online somehow? Paypal account would be a great way to do it.

 

[Way2Broke]

As it stands now there is no way to donate online, but you can drop a check in the mail (with the full address above, please make sure to use the in care that is listed above, not just the address from the website) to the bank and it will get to where it needs to go. I'll buy you the stamp if you need it! At USA Jet we are old school, that means no glass, no internet, and buying stamps. The delay in the shave the Mods heads for Cancer research is Paypal, they are very particular about setting up donation accounts. I can't tell everyone how much we appreciate your support!!!!! I will see what I can do about posting an announcement.

 

[TWA]

Should checks be written to Fifth Third Bank, or the Lon McIntosh Memorial Fund?