US Airways Pilot/FA Recall

[Bad-Andy]

How will those open positions be filled? By the remaining furloughed pilots?

By returning EVLOA, Mil Leave, Med Leave, etc pilots. Rumor already is another bid to follow shortly after this one if not all of the Group 2 positions are filled by returning Leaves.

Dugan -- enjoy training again. This time try to stay awake for more than an hour a day....

 

[elguapo9]

Looks to me like the seat lock wasn't waived for most guys. Everyone I know bid for those slots and didn't get it.

 

[Tweaker]

Well those returning from some kind of leave are all senior to us pukes.

 

[zymotic]

Looks to me like the seat lock wasn't waived for most guys. Everyone I know bid for those slots and didn't get it.

Everyone you know must not have been senior enough to hold group 2. The four most senior recalled pilots were awarded group 2 and now hold the bottom positions in DC and CLT. That's as junior as group 2 went. It has nothing to do with waiving the seat lock and everything to do with seniority.

 

[2ndGenPSA]

But with some group 2 seats still vacant, wouldn't 190 guys have been awarded them, creating vacancies on the 190, if there were no seat lock?

 

[zymotic]

But with some group 2 seats still vacant, wouldn't 190 guys have been awarded them, creating vacancies on the 190, if there were no seat lock?

I don't know why there were some group 2 vacancies. I think Bad-Andy's guess above is probably the reason. I've heard letters are going out to EVLA pilots telling them it's their last chance to return. I do know the company wants to give those guys group 2 aircraft so that may be the reason they left some positions unfilled.

I just wanted to make it clear that 190 guys did have their training freeze waived.

 

[MCDU]

If they started sim training they get locked. The ones getting group 2 probably did not start Sim training. Usair has to lock you on the 190, otherwise you would never get anybody trained for the plane. Expect lots of bids with upward movement.


M

 

[zymotic]

If they started sim training they get locked. The ones getting group 2 probably did not start Sim training. Usair has to lock you on the 190, otherwise you would never get anybody trained for the plane. Expect lots of bids with upward movement.
Capt 190 has gone to prior furloughed pilots. May 1999.The funny thing is that the Nicolau award would put furloughed West pilots ahead of Active East Captains that were hired 17 after them. How times change.

M

No. The 4 190 guys awarded group 2 were fully trained and flying the line...and why don't you leave the East/West comments to another thread.

 

[MCDU]

No. The 4 190 guys awarded group 2 were fully trained and flying the line...and why don't you leave the East/West comments to another thread.

I fixed it.

M

 

[MCDU]

Yeah,Zymotic. Chris B. Is showing 190 on RSV and flying. Recalled to the 190 and now group 2. why was he trained so fast. Maybe he was still current. You got me?

M

 

[zymotic]

Yeah,Zymotic. Chris B. Is showing 190 on RSV and flying. Recalled to the 190 and now group 2. why was he trained so fast. Maybe he was still current. You got me?

M

Trained fast? He was recalled on Labor Day.

 

[elguapo9]

If they started sim training they get locked. The ones getting group 2 probably did not start Sim training. Usair has to lock you on the 190, otherwise you would never get anybody trained for the plane. Expect lots of bids with upward movement.


M

It's actually the other way around. The 4 that were cut loose had completed their training, while 10 guys I know are at home waiting for Systems to start on 12/16. The other people I know that bid for those slots are either in the sim now or completing OE.

 

[Tweaker]

Well, although I would have liked to have avoided a sentence in the shiitay of brotha on brotha violence, I am glad that we are not being frozen on this aircraft after all.

I am really excited about gettin' back in a cockpit. This should be a nice first experience, as this E-190 seems like something designed by Fisher-Price. Most evra thang is automatical! Me likey!

Cheese steaks and rape for everybody! Homebrews at the crack shack!

 

[Captzaahlie]

tweak you always crack me up you need your own blog....

 

[Bad-Andy]

But with some group 2 seats still vacant, wouldn't 190 guys have been awarded them, creating vacancies on the 190, if there were no seat lock?

Straight from the union -- the Group 2 positions that were left open are for the returning Leaves of Absence. The company had 2 choices -- 1.) run the bid the way they did and leave a variety of Group 2 positions open in anticipation of those guys coming back or 2.) hold off on the bid until those guys were back. The company needed other positions filled. So they opted for choice #1. Any positions that aren't filled by returning LOA's will be filled on the next bid.

At least on this bid, the seat lock does not apply. Could it change on the next bid, of course. But SO FAR, no seat lock... It just happens that the rest of us aren't senior enough to hold group 2, yet...