US Airways Pilot/FA Recall

[psw757]

just got hoggs job offer for a position flying a 190 in phl.

Promptly threw it in the trash.......

hahaha

 

[Question4U]

Just got Hoggs job offer for a position flying a 190 in PHL.

Promptly threw it in the trash.......

What do you mean? You don't want to work for less than Mesa wages and be locked into PHL for 18 months. The good news is your DOH that they preach about is usless and you can be jr. to new hires. What a joke.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Being they've run 4 classes already, not gonna happen. Funny thing is, I bet some west people will jump on this. Giving up seniority, 50% paycut, 18 month lock on the east regardless if there are any west openings, crap commute etc.... And the best yet, pretty much giving up on the nicolau, talk about having integrity and sticking to what you believe is right.

PSW, nobody is jumping on this out west. It seems more like we're all lining up to say no.

 

[Tweaker]

It sounds like an offer you can't help but refuse, but I am sure there are some who are really struggling financially, or live on the "right" coast.

I don't think it is fair to accuse someone who does this of giving up on the Nic award.

 

[psw757]

It sounds like an offer you can't help but refuse, but I am sure there are some who are really struggling financially, or live on the "right" coast.

I don't think it is fair to accuse someone who does this of giving up on the Nic award.

Who said anything about being fair? Nothing is fair in this business, especially at this company. If any original west take this it is a 100 percent sellout. There are more rumored classes for Phx in the next couple months. Why anyone would give up what they earned Over the last 5-6 years to go to the 190 on the very first chance is beyond me.

 

[psw757]

Who said anything about being fair? Nothing is fair in this business, especially at this company. If any original west take this it is a 100 percent sellout. There are more rumored classes for Phx in the next couple months. Why anyone would give up what they earned Over the last 5-6 years to go to the 190 on the very first chance is beyond me.

I think the company is hoping they take it. Creates more of a rift, lowers payroll and then they can put some newhires out west. There is always more to the big picture.

 

[OnTheDole]

not that this applies to me (as I live in PHX) but... if a West furlough lives on the east coast this may very well be an ok deal. Lets face it, there won't be a contract (and thus the NIC) for years and if you live on the east coast doing a 12 month stint on the 190 in PHL to get an east coast base on a group 2 or better A/C while waiting on this 'merger' to be complete might be better than remaining furloughed for the next 12 months then having to commute to PHX when you get recalled.

I dont see it as selling out on the NIC at all. If you ask me - the sell out of the NIC happens every day a west crew shows up to fly while the company allows the east to rape your career. At the end of the day the old question remains... is it better to be 'right' or better to be happy?

 

[OnTheDole]

I think the company is hoping they take it. Creates more of a rift, lowers payroll and then they can put some newhires out west. There is always more to the big picture.

that I agree with.........

 

[psw757]

Your points are all good. I just don't think a contract is as far away as many think. If I'm not mistaken most of the west guys furloughed were on 5th year pay. So your looking at just about a 50 percent paycut. That is a tough pill to swallow for short term happiness. Let's not be nieve here, I really think there will be classes for the Phx base after the holidays. So really, is it worth it? And for the west pilots it's an 18 month lock.

 

[OnTheDole]

18 month east lock yes - but also locked to the 190 for 12 months. Let me be clear - this deal sucks for anyone who wants to be based in PHX, but for someone who was @ AWA and commuted from the east coast this could make their life easier until a joint contract (which could be 'soon' - but I think is light years away)