US Airways Pilot/FA Recall

[zymotic]

767 went to mid level '99 hires....

And they will all be displaced after the fall pull down.

 

[Crzipilot]

Ya they will, but 6 months sitting at home at 91-98/hr isn't bad......

Considering the West 93/hr is after 15 years....

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

So Easties, is the logjam clearing? Is this the start of the movement on the East? Let's hope it continues. Does this also mean guys hired into the 190 after the merger and were furloughed (and now recalled) will finally get off the 190?

And before anyone starts, I'm not angry. Some movement would be good for this place, I really hope things pick up on that side.

 

[Crzipilot]

From a quick glance, it looks like a few of the furloughed guys that got assigned to the 190 are off it.....

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Excellent.

 

[psw757]

Quite a few are leaving the 190 in may and several of them were just recalled in November.

 

[zymotic]

So Easties, is the logjam clearing? Is this the start of the movement on the East? Let's hope it continues. Does this also mean guys hired into the 190 after the merger and were furloughed (and now recalled) will finally get off the 190?

And before anyone starts, I'm not angry. Some movement would be good for this place, I really hope things pick up on that side.

I would say it is too early to tell. We'll see what happens in the bid after the summer flying.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

I would say it is too early to tell. We'll see what happens in the bid after the summer flying.

I know we work for a stupid company (just ask MCDU), but wow, wouldn't that make 3 training events in one year for some folks if there is a pull down of flying?

 

[zymotic]

I know we work for a stupid company (just ask MCDU), but wow, wouldn't that make 3 training events in one year for some folks if there is a pull down of flying?

Haven't been there that long but I think it happens this way every year. I think many of them are eligible for a short requal training program.

 

[Question4U]

I know we work for a stupid company (just ask MCDU), but wow, wouldn't that make 3 training events in one year for some folks if there is a pull down of flying?

It is stupid enough that the company lets people out of seat locks. There are pilots that have just finished 190 training and will turn around and be back in for group 2. Good deal for them get a 190 type and than a 737 or A320. The 190 is going to be a continous training airplane. I am sure the company is planning well in advance and we just don't see there master plan. What a joke.

 

[zymotic]

It is stupid enough that the company lets people out of seat locks. There are pilots that have just finished 190 training and will turn around and be back in for group 2. Good deal for them get a 190 type and than a 737 or A320. The 190 is going to be a continous training airplane. I am sure the company is planning well in advance and we just don't see there master plan. What a joke.

Seems like they can't win with some people. If they didn't let people out of the 190 training freeze someone would be complaining a new hire was flying around in a bus while a 2007 hire was stuck in the 190.

Anyhow, I don't know about the continuous training. From what I hear from the January new-hires, they have been told they will not be let out of the seat lock. Also, the top 35 (including myself) have not bid off the airplane. I think they will possibly put more new hires on the 190 and they it should be a smaller turnover vs. a revolving door.

 

[Question4U]

Seems like they can't win with some people. If they didn't let people out of the 190 training freeze someone would be complaining a new hire was flying around in a bus while a 2007 hire was stuck in the 190.

Anyhow, I don't know about the continuous training. From what I hear from the January new-hires, they have been told they will not be let out of the seat lock. Also, the top 35 (including myself) have not bid off the airplane. I think they will possibly put more new hires on the 190 and they it should be a smaller turnover vs. a revolving door.

All I am trying to say is that when the rule is a 12 month seat lock, people base their decision on weather to come back off furlough or hold out. Then they change the rules. I know the company wants to get people off furlough or resign, this is not the way to do it by having no giudelines to base decisions. In my opinion with the complete unorganized mess furloughs will ride it out till they are forced to make desicion unless they are unemployed and need a job.

 

[zymotic]

All I am trying to say is that when the rule is a 12 month seat lock, people base their decision on weather to come back off furlough or hold out. Then they change the rules. I know the company wants to get people off furlough or resign, this is not the way to do it by having no giudelines to base decisions. In my opinion with the complete unorganized mess furloughs will ride it out till they are forced to make desicion unless they are unemployed and need a job.

As one who was recently recalled I'd have to say I haven't experienced this disorganization you speak of. I was ok with a 12 month lock on the 190. Now I can bid off if I want to. It's only gravy. Those that don't want the 190 can bypass indefinitely. Now they can get recalled to a group 2 or 190 if they would like. Where is the mess? As it has been said before, base your decision on the 12 month lock and don't plan on it being waived. If one can't live with it then don't accept recall to the 190.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Well said Zy.

 

[Tweaker]

The seat lock is properly termed an "aircraft freeze." If pile its were told in Jan that it would not be waived, then that is both a total reversal of a repeated position from Nov. and also news to anyone I know. The union has not stated such. This bid just now has permitted another 20-30 recently trained E190 pile its to leave the aircraft.

Summary - I call BS