US Air firing pilot who's gun discharged

[GogglesPisano]

And the Terrorists out there are all saying - Thank You, US Air Management. We truly appreciate how you are discouraging your pilots from participating in the FFDO program...

Airline management teams have never warmed to the idea of armed pilots. They've always seen it as a liability issue and have assumed they'd be indemnified in the event of another terrorits attack.

 

[Caspian27]

I actually expressed no opinion. I asked a question. If you shoot a hole in a company aircraft, you're going to get to talk to HR. That's where the value of ALPA is. I'll call BS that ALPA denied to defend him.

If you get sick, hurt or diagnosed, have something going on at home that makes you unfit to fly, get a number from ATC, have a runway incursion, etc etc....there were immediate avenues for help. We're on our own now.

I completely agree with you. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

Good luck with everything by the way.

 

[N1N2]

This pilot was fired days ago while under ALPA. ALPA made the decision to not defend him.

This is true...fired under ALPA representation.YouTube - TSA Endangers Pilots Through dangerous policy...

 

[Secret Squirrel]

You fired your representation.

 

[Dan Roman]

This pilot was fired days ago while under ALPA. ALPA made the decision to not defend him.

You actually think with ALPA's days numbered that it had no effect on what happened to this guy???

This is only the first of many incedences that will prove what a mistake USAPA was.

 

[scarlet]

Would sound great...A pilot defends the country and his company and then fired= Bring on Unemployment from USLESS AIR

 

[DougCorp-9]

Guess its time for all FFDOs to send their weapons back to artesia. You spend your own money to go out, get trained and then carry a huge responsibility for free only to have an accident and the lose your job. What a bunch of chit. Anyone have parker's e-mail? He needs to get some messages.

 

[Cobra17]

And the Terrorists out there are all saying - Thank You, US Air Management. We truly appreciate how you are discouraging your pilots from participating in the FFDO program...

Management? Terrorists? This guys seems to be doing a fine job endangering his fellow pilot and passengers and threatening the FFDO program all by himself. While it was an unfortunate accident, why do you think he should keep his job?

 

[GuppyWN]

My bet is the pilot just found a way to NOT fly to 65 and get paid in full.

Gup

 

[satpak77]

me thinks an FOIA Act should be filed to find out the TRUE story and not the USA-Today-under-your-hotel-room door version / crew lounge version.

but that is just me

 

[jon coqtoestone]

Management? Terrorists? This guys seems to be doing a fine job endangering his fellow pilot and passengers and threatening the FFDO program all by himself. While it was an unfortunate accident, why do you think he should keep his job?

Had this happened postflight, it would have been handled differently. Accidents that occur while adhering to SOP's are accidents. Mishaps that occur while violating SOP's are "a little tougher" to defend.

 

[satpak77]

Had this happened postflight, it would have been handled differently. Accidents that occur while adhering to SOP's are accidents. Mishaps that occur while violating SOP's are "a little tougher" to defend.

never mind the conveniently overlooked fact how an AD could have capped the other pilot and had it been multiple AD's hit something and ricoceted (sp?) and capped both pilots

but besides that, nah, just a tiny mistake. heck, it is TSA's fault. Blame Bush too. Blame Hillary also.

 

[PlaneDrvr]

never mind the conveniently overlooked fact how an AD could have capped the other pilot and had it been multiple AD's hit something and ricoceted (sp?) and capped both pilots

but besides that, nah, just a tiny mistake. heck, it is TSA's fault. Blame Bush too. Blame Hillary also.

The chances of a 'hollow point' round, ricochetting (correct sp. dictionary.com) off of aluminum would be very unlikely. In fact, from the pics, the round, accidently fired, barely pierced the outer skin of the a/c.

Regardless, the pilot should NOT have been fired; and all pilots (FFDOs or not), should be outraged. peroid. Total B.S.

For what its worth.

DA

 

[TWA Dude]

ALPA made the decision to not defend him.

I call BS on this. ALPA is required to grieve every termination. They're not just defending the pilot; they're defending the contract. The process takes many months so I'd bet the preliminaries had begun. USAPA's grievance committee, if there is one, is free to take over. The contract is still in effect.

FWIW I agree that termination is too harsh a punishment. We'll see if he gets his job back.

 

[satpak77]

The chances of a 'hollow point (A)' round, ricochetting (correct sp. dictionary.com) off of aluminum would be very unlikely. In fact, from the pics, the round, accidently fired (B), barely pierced the outer skin (C) of the a/c.

Regardless, the pilot should NOT have been fired; and all pilots (FFDOs or not), should be outraged. peroid. Total B.S.

For what its worth.

DA

A) Wonder what the hollow point would have done had it hit someone ?

B) We all know "accidently fired" that has been emphasized enough

C) It pierced the aluminum skin (barely tho...!), seems like if it hit something inside and broke into pieces, it could have hurt somebody.

why is this "total BS" to fire him? What are the FACTS of the case?