UPS Poolies and futre pilots

[de727ups]

"Just trying to figure out how to competitive without am internal LOR."

To be brutally honest...you aren't competitive without at least one LOR.

 

[UPSer]

Anyway, I think its great that you guys are going to hire again and I also hope that your contract gets resolved soon with some more hiring down the road to go with it.

FJ

I hope we get our contract finished soon too, I know that you guys are waiting to see what we get in our new contract so you can base yours off of it. I've heard some good new lately coming from our negotiators, it seems that with the company making good money, our concessions will not be as deep as previously thought. So hopefully your concessions won't be that bad either.

 

[767-300ER]

I've heard some good new lately coming from our negotiators, it seems that with the company making good money, our concessions will not be as deep as previously thought. So hopefully your concessions won't be that bad either.

I'll vote NO if we take a pay cut greater than 10%.

 

[flybrowntails]

Pay cut????!!!!

waiting for my chance to vote!!

 

[Wise Guy]

I actually was thinking we should take a cut somewhere is the range of 30-40%. After all, we are just labor. All the money should go to management.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

So you guys are actually thiking of pay cuts?

 

[UPSer]

So you guys are actually thiking of pay cuts?

Management states that even UPS is not immune from the general hard economic times and that yes, they are expecting us to take some concessions in pay and work rules as well as retirement. I just hope that the cuts are not too deep or I will be voting no also.

 

[Wise Guy]

"So you guys are actually thiking of pay cuts?"

ILS,

I was most definitly kidding! I'm pretty sure the rest were as well. I see absolutely no reason to take a pay cut when UPS is making record profits. In fact, I expect significant improvements in many areas. I can tell you for sure that if the "hidden" B scale doesn't go away, I will be voting no. Cheers

 

[UPSer]

"So you guys are actually thiking of pay cuts?"

ILS,

I was most definitly kidding! I'm pretty sure the rest were as well. I see absolutely no reason to take a pay cut when UPS is making record profits. In fact, I expect significant improvements in many areas. I can tell you for sure that if the "hidden" B scale doesn't go away, I will be voting no. Cheers

Wise Guy, I don't know where you have been hiding out in the NASC, but the reality is that if we become too expensive UPS will contract out all our flying, I'd rather take a pay cut and keep my job.

 

[767-300ER]

Pilots will work for reduced wages for the stability UPS would offer, and UPS knows this.

I'll take a small pay cut as long as UPS still pumps out its Billion$ in profits and continues to grow.

 

[Wise Guy]

You guys are right. I'm way out of line. I'll vote yes no matter what.

 

[UPSer]

You guys are right. I'm way out of line. I'll vote yes no matter what.

Thanks for seeing the light, this is too great a company to ruin by us being too greedy now.

 

[klhoard]

Wow, now there is a line or reasoning you don't hear very often. . .

"My company is making Record Profits, so I want a pay cut"

YGBSM. . . .

 

[UPSer]

Wow, now there is a line or reasoning you don't hear very often. . .

"My company is making Record Profits, so I want a pay cut"

YGBSM. . . .

I think what is meant by that is that we are taking concessions to ensure the profitability continues.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I understand what you guys/gals are saying (not getting too greedy and keeping your job) but I heard the company is making billions. Why would you need a pay cut? Sounds like typical airline management bull$hit to me. WTF?

 

[UPSer]

I understand what you guys/gals are saying (not getting too greedy and keeping your job) but I heard the company is making billions. Why would you need a pay cut? Sounds like typical airline management bull$hit to me. WTF?

Quite frankly, I'm overpaid as it is for what I do. A reasonable concessionary package to help the company grow would be alright with me.

 

[TonyC]

Quite frankly, I'm overpaid as it is for what I do. A reasonable concessionary package to help the company grow would be alright with me.

Apparently it has been difficult for UPS to weather the tough economic times of the recent past - - with pilot wages so high, it's a miracle they've posted record profits.


Somebody please tell me I accidentally entered the YGBSM section.

 

[Rhoid]

Is it true that FedEx management plans on using the new UPS contract as a guide for their negotiations? If so does that mean that FedEx pilots can anticipate concessions as well to stay competitive with UPS?

 

[TonyC]

Is it true that FedEx management plans on using the new UPS contract as a guide for their negotiations? If so does that mean that FedEx pilots can anticipate concessions as well to stay competitive with UPS?

I'm gonna go out on a very short yet stout limb here and speak for the majority of FedEx pilots:


FedEx will become a trucking company before FedEx pilots agree to concessions.


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[UPSer]

I'm gonna go out on a very short yet stout limb here and speak for the majority of FedEx pilots:


FedEx will become a trucking company before FedEx pilots agree to concessions.


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That's not a very good attitude to have if you want your company to grow and prosper. You must realize what both of our companies are up against, the German invasion, they are a serious player.