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Union: Delta wants to cut pilot jobs

Hamfighter

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Union: Delta wants to cut pilot jobs


Delta pilots union says management wants to cut unspecified number of pilot jobs


  • Harry R. Weber, Associated Press Writer
  • On Friday May 8, 2009, 9:09 pm EDT
ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines Inc., the world's biggest airline operator, wants to cut an unspecified number of pilot jobs through a program that would give pilots an incentive to retire, according to a memo issued by the pilots union Friday.
Lee Moak, chairman of the pilots union's executive committee, said the pilot retirement incentive program would be "designed to address what management perceives to be a current pilot staffing overage."
Under the terms of the proposal, active pilots who have met certain age and length-of-service metrics would be eligible to participate in the program, Moak said. Participating pilots would receive a severance payment, medical and dental benefits for a limited period of time and retiree travel benefits, he said.
Moak did not provide other details of the program, nor did he say how many pilot jobs Atlanta-based Delta hoped to cut. He said union officials would negotiate with Delta management with the goal of reaching a tentative agreement.
"If an agreement is reached and ratified, the decision to participate would belong to eligible pilots," Moak said.
Airlines have been struggling to fill their seats amid the deep economic downturn in the U.S. and other countries.
Delta said in a statement that it "continues to take every step possible to avoid involuntary reductions of frontline employees as a result of current economic conditions."
The airline has cut nonunion staff through voluntary severance programs. It said that in addition to those programs previously offered, it is working cooperatively with the Air Line Pilots Association "to ensure we have any flexibility needed as we adjust capacity to demand."
Delta acquired Northwest Airlines last October and together, the two carriers have more than 12,000 pilots.
The two groups of pilots have already resolved seniority list integration and have agreed to a joint contract.
 

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Anyone one at Compass starting to get a little nervous?

-We all know what the next step is enough guys don't take the "early-out."
 

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SO..seriously, what do you think would be an attractive package that guys would take? No flame baits please....
 

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It was only a matter of time. Sorry to hear it.

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Guess I don't need to worry about completing my DAL app anytime soon.
 

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They have been talking about doing this for months. No one should really be that surprised by this letter from the MEC. As a bottom guy I am nervous but, we'll have to see how many senior guys take the deal. Depending on how good a deal it is I can see a lot of NW guys taking off (no pun intended).
 

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Just curious, but would DL offer more than what SWA is offering?
 

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they've already said that we would be overstaffed for the fall but short for next summer so why is this a surprise? They probably know they are going to have significant training costs anyway as stuff shifts around so why not get rid of some senior guys and hire new guys next year. we'll see
 

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they've already said that we would be overstaffed for the fall but short for next summer so why is this a surprise? They probably know they are going to have significant training costs anyway as stuff shifts around so why not get rid of some senior guys and hire new guys next year. we'll see

This is exactly what is up. They don't need guys this summer, but don't want the training churn associated with furloughing then recalling next summer. What they do is figure out what it would cost to furlough a guy then offer under that amount of money for the old guys to leave. Then next summer they will hire 300-500 guys that are on first year pay reducing the overall cost of the group. It's called the juniority effect and it can save alot of money if managed right. The only reason why they are doing it is because it saves them money, they aren't doing it to be nice to the old guys.
 

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Glenn Tilton famous quote, " why would i pay you to retire?"


i dont get it either - you would think that the airline ( any airline for that matter) would want to have as many pilots as they could at the lowest rates of pay ie ( new hires) that represents a huge savings right there.

i just dont get it. And yeah it's unfortuante that it prob wont be any better than SW, so what maybe 2-400 people take it combined.

who would take a lump sum of 150K when they make that anyway- not to mention the tax on a lump sum.

But at least any future furloughees have jobs at compass-- that is a nice security blanket.

SKIPPY
 

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get rid of any Sliding pay scale and the whole picture changes.
A first officer is a first officer, A Capt is a Capt. If you get rid of Bscale or what ever you want to call it. The company would stop manipulating the work force to get the cheapest payroll.
I like the European contract systems. You hire in as a Capt/ Fo at the current rate . longevity is not an issue. Qualifications pay, not Seniority .Seniority is used for things like travel benefits, vacation and such not Salary.
 

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they've already said that we would be overstaffed for the fall but short for next summer so why is this a surprise? They probably know they are going to have significant training costs anyway as stuff shifts around so why not get rid of some senior guys and hire new guys next year. we'll see

Don't confuse them with the truth, Super, FI will lock up.
 

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It's the economy, not the merger.... :erm:

And if we had a good enough economy, every airline would have 13,000 pilots. Right?

This was called when the ink was still wet on the merger docs. Nothing new under the sun.

TC
 

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It's the economy, not the merger.... :erm:

You can't be serious. Did you really think there was not going to be job loss with the merger. I know the company said there will not be if they merge, but there will always be an excuse to furlough (SARS, Fuel, Economy, etc.) Two companies two positions, One company one postion. Good luck.
 
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