Union: Delta wants to cut pilot jobs

[Skippy]

Glenn Tilton famous quote, " why would i pay you to retire?"


i dont get it either - you would think that the airline ( any airline for that matter) would want to have as many pilots as they could at the lowest rates of pay ie ( new hires) that represents a huge savings right there.

i just dont get it. And yeah it's unfortuante that it prob wont be any better than SW, so what maybe 2-400 people take it combined.

who would take a lump sum of 150K when they make that anyway- not to mention the tax on a lump sum.

But at least any future furloughees have jobs at compass-- that is a nice security blanket.

SKIPPY

 

[vtwo]

get rid of any Sliding pay scale and the whole picture changes.
A first officer is a first officer, A Capt is a Capt. If you get rid of Bscale or what ever you want to call it. The company would stop manipulating the work force to get the cheapest payroll.
I like the European contract systems. You hire in as a Capt/ Fo at the current rate . longevity is not an issue. Qualifications pay, not Seniority .Seniority is used for things like travel benefits, vacation and such not Salary.

 

[PuffDriver]

they've already said that we would be overstaffed for the fall but short for next summer so why is this a surprise? They probably know they are going to have significant training costs anyway as stuff shifts around so why not get rid of some senior guys and hire new guys next year. we'll see

Don't confuse them with the truth, Super, FI will lock up.

 

[AA717driver]

It's the economy, not the merger.... :erm:

And if we had a good enough economy, every airline would have 13,000 pilots. Right?

This was called when the ink was still wet on the merger docs. Nothing new under the sun.

TC

 

[Question4U]

It's the economy, not the merger.... :erm:

You can't be serious. Did you really think there was not going to be job loss with the merger. I know the company said there will not be if they merge, but there will always be an excuse to furlough (SARS, Fuel, Economy, etc.) Two companies two positions, One company one postion. Good luck.

 

[Superpilot92]

This is exactly what is up. They don't need guys this summer, but don't want the training churn associated with furloughing then recalling next summer. What they do is figure out what it would cost to furlough a guy then offer under that amount of money for the old guys to leave. Then next summer they will hire 300-500 guys that are on first year pay reducing the overall cost of the group. It's called the juniority effect and it can save alot of money if managed right. The only reason why they are doing it is because it saves them money, they aren't doing it to be nice to the old guys.

Yup .

 

[Superpilot92]

Don't confuse them with the truth, Super, FI will lock up.

Sorry, my apologies

 

[Whine Lover]

WOW. Slashing jobs after the merger.

Man, nobody saw that one coming.


YKYAAFI

 

[PBRstreetgang]

The airlines are run by retards, instead of charging what a ticket costs, they determine that the best way to make a profit is to take it from the employees pockets. Problem is employees are not the federal govt, when we print money on the color copier we go to jail.
PBR

 

[BrickTop]

And if we had a good enough economy, every airline would have 13,000 pilots. Right?

This was called when the ink was still wet on the merger docs. Nothing new under the sun.

TC

You (We) will NEVER see those numbers again. NEVER. Those days are gone. We will be lucky even to replace those lost jobs with RJ's. Personally I don't ever see the number of pilots in the industry we had in the late 90's. The good days are behind most of us and those looking for them ahead will be waiting many many years.

 

[jmreii]

You (We) will NEVER see those numbers again. NEVER. Those days are gone. We will be lucky even to replace those lost jobs with RJ's. Personally I don't ever see the number of pilots in the industry we had in the late 90's. The good days are behind most of us and those looking for them ahead will be waiting many many years.

I agree with you on this statement and I will add to it. Pilots should not act like this is their first time. If you didn't know, welcome to the business world boys and girls, now quickly take your seats for the two hour lecture followed by a quiz with 90 percent is passing.

 

[dispatchguy]

The airlines are run by retards, instead of charging what a ticket costs, they determine that the best way to make a profit is to take it from the employees pockets.

Truer words have not been spoken

 

[Secret Squirrel]

It's the economy, not the merger.... :erm:

That is how the company is going to get around your brand new no furlough language so i would not be so quick to scream that out loud.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

And we are the ones that agree to it!

 

[anewunion]

This is the best thing to happen to the DAL pilot group. It's good business. Everyone wins. We all knew this was going to happen, this is best outcome we could ask for.