Unfortunately CAL will lose it's 50 seat scope.

[IBNAV8R]

And they represent what percentage of the entire group?? Lucky, go cry somewhere else. Maybe you and Joe "The Blow" Merchant can have a self-pity party and compare who is more inadequate.

You imply the five-more-year guys are a small fraction. Don't underestimate their influence. Even more so is the huge group of ten-to-fifteen-more-years guys right behind them that have the exact same motivations to maximize the time they have left.

So, the senior guys are not on your side and the regional guys aren't worthy of fair integration. Who exactly is fighting WITH you?

 

[hyflyin]

ALPA=FAILURE

Was not always the case, but it is time to move on. They have sold out to much, to many times. Sorry, not trying to be mean spirited, its just reality!!

 

[Jetjockey]

You imply the five-more-year guys are a small fraction. Don't underestimate their influence. Even more so is the huge group of ten-to-fifteen-more-years guys right behind them that have the exact same motivations to maximize the time they have left.

So, the senior guys are not on your side and the regional guys aren't worthy of fair integration. Who exactly is fighting WITH you?

You imply the guys with more than 5 years don't care about scope. Dead wrong. This issue is front and center. Doubt all you want. Integration of the regional guys??? What in the world are you talking about?

Ever notice how the biggest ALPA, union bashers are the guys with vague backgrounds, and no aircraft listed? Jerry's Kids??? Jerry needs to see you in his office for some "servicing issues".

 

[luckytohaveajob]

JetJackoff lists his resume in his profile. Nice work Nancy. You looking for a new job?

Do you think all the big committees are filled with altruistic junior guys such as yourself thinking about the future? Get a clue, clueless.

 

[littlebigman]

That is exactly what is goin to happen. CAL 737 shorts and UAL 319 out in the desert.

 

[Jetjockey]

case in point

 

[IBNAV8R]

Don't have the actual numbers, so I'm spit-balling here.
Also, it's a generalization of group attitudes - individual attitudes may differ.

A - Mainline pilots 60-65 - 5%
B - Mainline pilots 50-60 - 30%
C - Mainline pilots 20-50 - 25%
D - Regional pilots all ages - 40%

Group A sold out everyone else to take care of themselves.
Group B will need to maximize the years they have left and make up for all they've lost. Why be different than the previous group?
Group C has the most lose in this whole mess and seem to be the most vocal about scope - and with good reason.
Group D, it's been suggested, should be overjoyed to staple themselves to the smelly side of Group C regardless of QOL, security and pay they currently enjoy. Group D wouldn't mind if integration was fair. Group D is beneath contempt of Group C. Group C will have NO integration whatsoever - They think they got theirs (though not to the extent of A & B). Group D must then also look out for themselves.

So, we have 25% with the most to lose against 75% who either won't care or have something to gain from seeing scope go away - not to mention the fat cats who would love nothing more than to pay RJ wages for wide-body captains.

Unless groups unite, and on terms acceptable to all, what do you think will happen to domestic narrow-body flying?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Don't have the actual numbers, so I'm spit-balling here.
Also, it's a generalization of group attitudes - individual attitudes may differ.

A - Mainline pilots 60-65 - 5%
B - Mainline pilots 50-60 - 30%
C - Mainline pilots 20-50 - 25%
D - Regional pilots all ages - 40%

Group A sold out everyone else to take care of themselves.
Group B will need to maximize the years they have left and make up for all they've lost. Why be different than the previous group?
Group C has the most lose in this whole mess and seem to be the most vocal about scope - and with good reason.
Group D, it's been suggested, should be overjoyed to staple themselves to the smelly side of Group C regardless of QOL, security and pay they currently enjoy. Group D wouldn't mind if integration was fair. Group D is beneath contempt of Group C. Group C will have NO integration whatsoever - They think they got theirs (though not to the extent of A & B). Group D must then also look out for themselves.

So, we have 25% with the most to lose against 75% who either won't care or have something to gain from seeing scope go away - not to mention the fat cats who would love nothing more than to pay RJ wages for wide-body captains.

Unless groups unite, and on terms acceptable to all, what do you think will happen to domestic narrow-body flying?

You nailed it....Perfect analysis Sir....

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Have the 4 year degree and no background check problems....Tell me again why I want to apply to a carrier that starts out a 737 pilot at 30K and no health insurance.....You guys need some new talking points...Quick, call Herndon and get some new material....:laugh:

I don't know Joe, why did you pay $8500 for a job that pays less than $30k to start? Quick resurrect the rjdc, they did so much for your career and that lawsuit...:laugh:

 

[Jetjockey]

So Joe was a PFTer AND a supporter of the RJDC? Really?

SAY IT AINT SO JOE!