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One solution could be to get an LOA from the MEC that will bring back the 60 captains that were displaced within the last 8 months. Their training would be minimal. They could be on line within 3 weeks if all parties act quickly. After the crisis is over, these captain positions could be posted for open bidding through the conventional process. FOs who bid captain on the current position notice would be eligible for captain pay throughout the LOA fix. For whatever reason, the company really did a poor job of calculating staffing needs. They straddled the fence too long between growth and stagnation. The good news is that we realized some growth. We should be willing to work with them to solve this problem. A distressed operation doesn't help anyone. If management, the MEC, and the pilot group do not get together to solve the problem then we will continue in our present drudgery.
 
ASA folks, what are your contractual requirements of management for vacation postponement? How much advance notice, voluntary, involuntary, and what about refund of deposits to committments already made for vacation?
 
WOW, I think I'm gonna throw up now..... Thanks for the insight though
Brad hates unions more than the Mormons do, I would bet dollars to donuts, F&H will have a hand in the very near future, your taterginity is at extreme risk.They will come at you in ways you never imagined. You need your MEC to come together with the rank and file, tell 'em to quit playing golf with Brad, and start peckerpunching him.
PBR
 
Sunlitpath - not a bad idea! If they really acted quickly (if we are really in a pinch??) I think you could have those guys back in the left seat quicker than that.

Thinking outside the box! Shoot that idea over to Scott or Brad.

However, I see the union balking more than the company.
 
ASA folks, what are your contractual requirements of management for vacation postponement? How much advance notice, voluntary, involuntary, and what about refund of deposits to committments already made for vacation?

Yep-

They can be postponed... 15 day notice-I think...All the company has to do is cover your "non-refundable deposits.."

-Pretty sad that our dues went to negotiate this kind of crap.
 
Yep-

They can be postponed... 15 day notice-I think...All the company has to do is cover your "non-refundable deposits.."

-Pretty sad that our dues went to negotiate this kind of crap.
You are on double secret reserve and didn't even know it! Brads got a hand full of your short and curlies and he is gonna start pulling out hand fulls!
PBR
 
You are on double secret reserve and didn't even know it! Brads got a hand full of your short and curlies and he is gonna start pulling out hand fulls!
PBR

Exactly-

But at least he will do it with a nice "thanks for all you do!"

-Classy...
 
I 'll take Brad and Scott as managers any day of the week. They are not perfect, but they are pretty damn good.
 
Here's my crystal ball prediction..... 40 new capt positions in ATL on the 200/700 and 10 in IAD
I love crystal balls. Mine are steel, but crystal is good too. DISCLAIMER: strictly for comical purposes. No homosexual inferences intended...
 
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Here's my crystal ball prediction..... 40 new capt positions in ATL on the 200/700 and 10 in IAD

For what reason? By the time any upgrades happen it will be well past summer - and too late! The flying tails way off come September, which is about the time upgrades would be online. This is why I doubt any of the next group of furloughs won't be called back. They will take too long to get back online.

Unless.....they are planning ahead for any pilots leaving for any other airlines in the near future................ Naaaah!
 
I 'll take Brad and Scott as managers any day of the week. They are not perfect, but they are pretty damn good.

Pretty good at the old soft sell... If you trust these guys a single little itty bitty bit, you are better than me!
-GO-TEAM!
GET-IT-DONE!!
 
What about more flying from mesa should that go in July? What are the chances of ASA picking up a share of that and needing more pilots... check that crystal ball of your's one more time would ya?
 
It would appear as if my crystal balls, despite not being steel, are rather accurate..... didn't have time to check too closely but would seem like 50+ capt awards through the system.... 25 in IAD alone.
 
CT just sent an email saying 30 more recalls??? Does that count as official? what day by 5pm would be the official day of submitting a bypass according to section 23 of the CBA? I feel like I need time to think here! Oh, well... it is a good problem to have a guess.
 
My crystal balls tell me that the vacation postponement will soon be mandatory. The ONLY reason it is voluntary now is because they are required to go through that process first.
 
Pretty good at the old soft sell... If you trust these guys a single little itty bitty bit, you are better than me!
-GO-TEAM!
GET-IT-DONE!!
good thing the VAST majority of us are not whinny, overly pessimistic panty waists like yourself....
 
CT just sent an email saying 30 more recalls??? Does that count as official? what day by 5pm would be the official day of submitting a bypass according to section 23 of the CBA? I feel like I need time to think here! Oh, well... it is a good problem to have a guess.


I have an idea. CALL CT DIRECT! Go direct to the source instead of a chat board.
 
Enough Talk! Let's get to work and show the world that we are the SUPER REGIONAL that we say we are. Hail Atlantic Southeast!
 

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