UALPA response to jumpseat threat

[Minimaniac]

Combative attitude? ... pull the Fn letter and we'll talk about this again.

You prove my point so well!

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

D-Bo,

I am posting this so that you may read it one last time:

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All this is asking is that you as a mainline United pilot please contact your MEC to let him/her know that you also believe that this matter needs to be fixed. It's called taking the moral high road. After a year and a half of being civil and getting the runaround from the UALPA MEC and UAL Management, this was the only alternative left. Until the UALPA MEC has UAX's back on this problem it will never be addressed.

You want UAL mainline to cover UAX's back, the same UAX that is growing at 15% while mainline shrinks 17%? I hope that is a rhetorical question.

 

[The Drizzle]

UAX's fault? I'm pretty sure somebody voted that flying away years ago.

 

[Flyerdan]

Huge win for the UAX folks!

Congratulations to the UAX JSC's for a successful campaign.

It seems that the UAX jumpseat campaign is a complete success. I don't see how there can be a UAL or UAX pilot anywhere that hasn't been educated on the unfairness of the current UAL jumpseat priority software.

There is sure to be some continued posturing and probably a few missed commutes initially if a temporary jumpseat war happens. Then both UAL and UAX management will have to do the right thing and fix the problem. After all, we are all on the same team serving the same customers.

 

[JoeMerchant]

You want UAL mainline to cover UAX's back, the same UAX that is growing at 15% while mainline shrinks 17%? I hope that is a rhetorical question.

I believe you were at CMR when the regional pilots at ASA and CMR tried to stop this ubsurd outsourcing by creating a single list.....Which group decided it wasn't worth fighting for?

 

[D-Bo]

D-Bo,

I am posting this so that you may read it one last time:

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All this is asking is that you as a mainline United pilot please contact your MEC to let him/her know that you also believe that this matter needs to be fixed. It's called taking the moral high road. After a year and a half of being civil and getting the runaround from the UALPA MEC and UAL Management, this was the only alternative left. Until the UALPA MEC has UAX's back on this problem it will never be addressed.

I didn't read anywhere in the letter that says they want us to contact our MEC to get the glitch fixed. If that was the message they were trying to get across they failed.

 

[D-Bo]

You prove my point so well!

You have 8 days.

 

[BoilerUP]

I didn't read anywhere in the letter that says they want us to contact our MEC to get the glitch fixed. If that was the message they were trying to get across they failed.

Check the last paragraph.

On behalf of all UAX pilots, we sincerely hope that we will not be forced to deny any UAL pilot a ride, as we are mindful of the fact that many UAL pilots will be negatively impacted. To that end, we are simply asking that you immediately call or email your MEC to let them know how important your UAX commute is, and to help us all obtain a fair and just resolution. Thank you for your professionalism and active cooperation.

Signed, the pilots of:

Chautauqua Airlines
Colgan Airlines
Go Jets Airlines
Mesa Air Group
Shuttle America
SkyWest Airlines

 

[XPOO]

D-Bo,

Here you go:

To that end, we are simply asking that you immediately call or email your MEC to let them know how important your UAX commute is, and to help us all obtain a fair and just resolution.

 

[WalterSobchak]

High-level reading comprehension is hard...

 

[ATRCA]

I don't understand why the UAL pilots don't have 1st priority on any jumpseat that has UAL code. It seems logical to me that they should be first in line. This is not shaniquas flying, it is UALs thus thier jumpseat.

Get lost. If you don't understand then your not in the business. If you're not in the business then your on the wrong message board. Beat it!

 

[bmpilot2003]

I didn't read anywhere in the letter that says they want us to contact our MEC to get the glitch fixed. If that was the message they were trying to get across they failed.

I can't believe United hired someone who can't read? Unbelievable!

 

[bmpilot2003]

You have 8 days.

You are an extremely sad individual for someone who use to fly for a regional. If that is not the case then you are still a sad individual.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Why are the UAL pilots obligated to the UAX pilots to fix UAL's apollo software? Perhaps they are... I just don't have a reference or document or known reason why they should...

 

[D-Bo]

D-Bo,

Here you go:

Thanks for pointing it out. I still don't think that was the correct way to go about it and most of the folks I know that have received a letter are not going to the JSC asking them to fix it but rather pissed off at a tactic aimed at trying to get the commuters to do something that your JSCs have already been briefed on. They're doing nothing but holding our commuters hostage. You guys can argue with me all day and that's fine but if the letter doesn't get pulled and you guys play this out, it won't end up pretty.

The system isn't getting fixed in the next 8 days. But you have 8 days to pull the letter and the threat, and talk about it.

 

[D-Bo]

You are an extremely sad individual for someone who use to fly for a regional. If that is not the case then you are still a sad individual.

What makes me sad? That I won't be taken hostage over something we don't have control over and if we did would cost us money from our already Fd up contract? We've been passive over the last 6 years. Way too passive. Not any more. Tired of having our throats stepped on by management and now UAX. It's not going to work. They should have considered the climate over here before sending the threat.

And yes, I used to fly for the commuters. If you fly for a UAX carrier I may be flying for your commuter before long. If so that changes nothing as far as my opinion on this subject is concerned.

We're trying to save jobs over here and UAX wants to drop this JS BS on us? That's fine. I'm giving you my opinion but would bet money on how this turns out if the letter isn't pulled in 8.

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

High-level reading comprehension is hard...

Walter, were you a pilot who became a dispatcher? Or, are the aircraft flown airplanes in your profile the ones you have dispatched, or just the ones you've gone for rides on?

 

[D-Bo]

You are an extremely sad individual for someone who use to fly for a regional. If that is not the case then you are still a sad individual.

I'm sad because I'm pissed off about being taken hostage over something I have no control over and if I did, would cost money from my already horrible contract? If you think that makes me sad then F you.

Yup. Used to fly for the commuters. If you fly for UAX I may be flying for yours before you know it. Won't change my opinion of this situation one bit.

 

[Caspian27]

D-Bo,

Quick question, if UALPA didn't drive this last software change in May that gave TSA/GoJet priority over other UAX on mainline, and mainline priority on TSA/GoJet....who did?

 

[imacdog]

Why are the UAL pilots obligated to the UAX pilots to fix UAL's apollo software? Perhaps they are... I just don't have a reference or document or known reason why they should...

I can understand your line of thinking if you feel that integrity is not required of a professional. More reasonable people believe that holding up your end of a reciprocal agreement is the right thing to do. But what do I know Rez, your ALPA pom poms are bigger than mine.