Travel Management-Elkhart IN. ????

[Pattern-Master]

Sounds like more work for the same little pay.

 

[skier17]

What exactly will this mean staffing wise for TMC?

I imagine more airplanes equals more hiring.

 

[flyfor5]

I'm new to this site and I ran across the TMC forum. I haven't read much of what has been posted, but I'm going to add my two cents anyway..

TMC wasn't a bad place to be. I was a Beechjet PIC and standards captain a few years ago. I've been gone a while and I'm sure some things have changed, but I've been employed by a LOT Worse!

IMO, If someone has the personality to just show up for work, get whatever is given to them, then be able to leave it at work on their days off, they will get along just fine. If someone ponders over the little things while at work, or worse, on their days off, they will grow to dislike it (quickly). Although, I guess that is true for most aviation companies. It's as good as you want it to be.

FYI, I didn't take their medical benefits. It was cheaper to purchase them on our own (family of 5). With the new Obama care, this may not be an issue much longer (like it or NOT).

Past Rumors...They have had an alliance with XO Jet for many years now. I remember doing XO trips back in 2009. Back then, XO marketed TMC as the small fleet option. I wouldn't read to much into the alliance. The rumors of merger have been around for at least 3-4 years. Who knows what will actually take place. Believe it when the wheels are up and the check clears!

Tip: TMC management has a low tolerance for BS, as did most of the pilots. That generated some friction between the two groups. If you want a long career with that management group, I would suggest that you pick your fights and have proof in black-n-white. The two top guys had a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later. Keep your nose clean and you'll never hear from them.

Again, my two cents worth...

Fly safe!

 

[ripit37]

flyfor5...Its really bad place to work now my friend.

 

[ripit37]

TMC purchased 7 Hawkers from XOJET. MR. DR. GM can now say he has the biggest charter fleet of Hawkers the next time he is invited to an after show/super bowl party with Celebs like Katie Perry. Mean while he has his pilots sleep in sh#t bag hotels 1.5 hours away from IND on super bowl sunday and double book rooms because he such a cheap a$$. Rockin and rolling 24 making massive amounts of $$$$$$ for you to rock your BULL$HIT low light/back light/high light and pound the high life dewwwww!! What a treat it was to have you as a leader!!!!

 

[Freedom]

What a bunch of Dumb Ass Pilots at TMC

Don't you get it?

Less money in your pocket, less spent on your hotels, etc, more money in the boss' pocket and bigger bonuses for the Scott twins.

If you don't like it, either Unionize or leave. Bitching will get you nowhere. Do something.

 

[ripit37]

Hey Freedom,
Sorry for the late response. Pilots at TMC are not a bunch of dumbasses. Pilots are leaving at a steady rate and attrition will continue through 2013. The Unionizing idea a couple years ago was in the early stages of forming but momentum died out. TMC is a really shady place to work and like most of my friends including myself, we saw the daylight and moved on.

 

[BentOver]

TMC wasn't a bad place to be. I was a Beechjet PIC and standards captain a few years ago. I've been gone a while and I'm sure some things have changed, but I've been employed by a LOT Worse! Being employed by alot worse is not an excuse for the way they treat thier pilots.

IMO, If someone has the personality to just show up for work, get whatever is given to them????? Whatever is given to them.. Like a ******************** sandwich?, then be able to leave it at work on their days off, they will get along just fine. If someone ponders over the little things while at work,you mean like duty period, rest, hotels, schedule?? or worse, on their days off, they will grow to dislike it (quickly). Although, I guess that is true for most aviation companies. It's as good as you want it to be.

FYI, I didn't take their medical benefits. It was cheaper to purchase them on our own (family of 5). You don't see a problem with this given the size of TMC?With the new Obama care, this may not be an issue much longer (like it or NOT).

Past Rumors...They have had an alliance with XO Jet for many years now. I remember doing XO trips back in 2009. Back then, XO marketed TMC as the small fleet option. I wouldn't read to much into the alliance. The rumors of merger have been around for at least 3-4 years. Who knows what will actually take place. Believe it when the wheels are up and the check clears!

Tip: TMC management has a low tolerance for BS,Read: TMC has a low tolerance for anyone who wants a decent QOL as did most of the pilots. That generated some friction between the two groups. If you want a long career with that management group, I would suggest that you pick your fights and have proof in black-n-white. The two top guys had a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later. Keep your nose clean and you'll never hear from them.

Again, my two cents worth...

Fly safe!

I know guys who were furloughed, landed at TMC and quit without having a back-up job.....FWIW

 

[cloud_chaser]

TMC purchased 7 Hawkers from XOJET. MR. DR. GM can now say he has the biggest charter fleet of Hawkers the next time he is invited to an after show/super bowl party with Celebs like Katie Perry. Mean while he has his pilots sleep in sh#t bag hotels 1.5 hours away from IND on super bowl sunday and double book rooms because he such a cheap a$$. Rockin and rolling 24 making massive amounts of $$$$$$ for you to rock your BULL$HIT low light/back light/high light and pound the high life dewwwww!! What a treat it was to have you as a leader!!!!

haha, i remember that night! the best part was the 100 dollars shoved in my pocket from apollo jets. i graciously gave that to a stripper the following night! CLOWNS!

 

[G4pilot]

Can anyone tell me what the current hiring situation is at TMC? What are the competitive mins? I am aware of all the negatives. I appreciate any help.

 

[OPECJet]

I know guys who were furloughed, landed at TMC and quit without having a back-up job.....FWIW

You said a mouthful. Didn't we have one guy finish IOE and get fired the same day for being out of position or some nonsense after flying home on a TMC provided ticket? "Standards Pilot" pretty much says it all......

 

[jafo20]

Their chief pilot emailed me an application for TMC along with some articles about them from a flying magazine. I filled it out and faxed it back in, but I haven't heard anything since. Is there usually much of a time gap between when people get initial contact to fill out an application and when they get the call to come in and interview?

 

[johnsonrod]

I have a buddy who has time on both the Beechjet and a Hawker 800A who is looking into TMC because his flight department could be shutting down soon.

Is aircraft type assigned to newhires basically decided by fleet openings at the time (i.e., open position on the Hawker) or is previous experience taken into account? Also, do Beechjet pilots tend to stay in the Beechjet or do they bid for the Hawker - is there movement between fleets?

 

[OPECJet]

I have a buddy who has time on both the Beechjet and a Hawker 800A who is looking into TMC because his flight department could be shutting down soon.

Is aircraft type assigned to newhires basically decided by fleet openings at the time (i.e., open position on the Hawker) or is previous experience taken into account? Also, do Beechjet pilots tend to stay in the Beechjet or do they bid for the Hawker - is there movement between fleets?

He might have better luck than I did, but I got rejected due to being low time. Almost 5K, ATP, furloughed NJA. Got a laugh out of it since I was applying for UI purposes only.

 

[LouSwatch]

Their chief pilot emailed me an application for TMC along with some articles about them from a flying magazine. I filled it out and faxed it back in, but I haven't heard anything since. Is there usually much of a time gap between when people get initial contact to fill out an application and when they get the call to come in and interview?

I think it just depends on when the chief pilot gets around to filling up the next training class. It can be immediate or a couple weeks later. He called me a few days after sending the application in.

 

[LouSwatch]

I have a buddy who has time on both the Beechjet and a Hawker 800A who is looking into TMC because his flight department could be shutting down soon.

Is aircraft type assigned to newhires basically decided by fleet openings at the time (i.e., open position on the Hawker) or is previous experience taken into account? Also, do Beechjet pilots tend to stay in the Beechjet or do they bid for the Hawker - is there movement between fleets?

Based on both fleet openings and experience. There were a couple street captains hired in my training class who had time in type, but I don't think they are doing that very often anymore. You interview for a generic pilot position, and they assign you to a type and position based on what they need and your experience.

 

[LouSwatch]

He might have better luck than I did, but I got rejected due to being low time. Almost 5K, ATP, furloughed NJA. Got a laugh out of it since I was applying for UI purposes only.

How long ago was that? I had about 3300 hours, no ATP, no jet time, and was slightly more experienced than the other Beechjet SICs in my training class.

 

[I fLy pLaNeS]

You said a mouthful. Didn't we have one guy finish IOE and get fired the same day for being out of position or some nonsense after flying home on a TMC provided ticket? "Standards Pilot" pretty much says it all......

There has to be more to the story, as in any secondhand story.

 

[jafo20]

Thanks for the heads-up, Lou. It is going on three weeks or so now, so I was kinda wondering. I think I may send the guy an email before I go back overseas.

 

[skier17]

Their chief pilot emailed me an application for TMC along with some articles about them from a flying magazine. I filled it out and faxed it back in, but I haven't heard anything since. Is there usually much of a time gap between when people get initial contact to fill out an application and when they get the call to come in and interview?

I know it was about a 2 month or so gap for me between filling out the application and getting the interview. After the interview, about 2 days to get the offer. I have a few friends that have been waiting a couple of months now as well, waiting for a call for an interview. The chief does all of the interviewing, as far as I know, so it may take a bit for him to get to you.

It's been a great job for me, so far. Home based, tons of time off, at least compared to where I came from. It seems like most of the guys that are unhappy here are former airline guys that aren't used to filing flight plans, planning fuel, loading luggage, etc... Other than somewhat low pay, this is a great place for guys that are accustomed to the 135 lifestyle, in my opinion.