To all NetJets Hopefuls...

[FLYLOW22]

Ah, someone who hasn't been screwed yet.

Or walked a picket line. Or seen the fruits of true Unity.

He won't need it at FLEX.

 

[fischman]

Googester managed to hijack 2 threads by his mere presence. I think he may want to lay off the "Vote no" crap, or we aren't going to get anything done...

 

[Iam3rd]

Googester managed to hijack 2 threads by his mere presence. I think he may want to lay off the "Vote no" crap, or we aren't going to get anything done...

Did I hear my name mentioned?

 

[Iam3rd]

Its so amazing how y'all feel your opinions are the only ones that matter and as soon as someone with a differing opinion comes along, y'all cuss them out and rip them a new one. Granted, there is nothing wrong about having a civilized debate about differing opinions, but y'all take it too personal and too extream. A person can even hear the anger within your post....one of you even wanted to put your fist through a wall.

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house. Calling their house and making death threats.....and don't tell me this stuff doesn't happen. I know for fact it does. The union did it to my father.....Now you know why I disagree with the union so much!

But at the same time that is why I love this country so much, because we can each have the freedom to have our own opinions and express them.

 

[honeycomb]

Its so amazing how y'all feel your opinions are the only ones that matter and as soon as someone with a differing opinion comes along, y'all cuss them out and rip them a new one. Granted, there is nothing wrong about having a civilized debate about differing opinions, but y'all take it too personal and too extream. A person can even hear the anger within your post....one of you even wanted to put your fist through a wall.

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house. Calling their house and making death threats.....and don't tell me this stuff doesn't happen. I know for fact it does. The union did it to my father.....Now you know why I disagree with the union so much!

But at the same time that is why I love this country so much, because we can each have the freedom to have our own opinions and express them.

I have taken the time to read your 'other posts' Gooooooogester.

You come across in another thread as an expert and couldn't even name your own equipments avionics.

The XL and XLS have HoneyBucket. The XLS + will have Collins ProLine 21. Not, EPIC like the CE-680.

Now, why did I mention this. Because you are just as much out to lunch in this area of Union vs Non-Union.

Get some years and education before you lecture folks with 30 plus years in the biz.

You are a child and children should only be seen and not heard.

Use your ears and stop running your mouth.

Otherwise, get ready for the responses you have already recieved to continue.

 

[Iam3rd]

I have taken the time to read your 'other posts' Gooooooogester.

You come across in another thread as an expert and couldn't even name your own equipments avionics.

The XL and XLS have HoneyBucket. The XLS + will have Collins ProLine 21. Not, EPIC like the CE-680.

Now, why did I mention this. Because you are just as much out to lunch in this area of Union vs Non-Union.

Get some years and education before you lecture folks with 30 plus years in the biz.

You are a child and children should only be seen and not heard.

Use your ears and stop running your mouth.

Otherwise, get ready for the responses you have already recieved to continue.

Ya know....you can't even quote a quote right.

What I said was the XLS+ was suppose to get the Soverign avonics. I know for fact that was the plan at one time, but from what I understand, do to the problems they have had with it they have gone with something else. Plus I never claimed to be the expert on the excel. Its been a number of years since I flew one. I was just stating what I heard.

But I tell you what....you sure do come across as a know it all. You must be a real joy to be with on a 5 day. I noticed you listed all your experience except you space shuttle time. From the sound of it you have been around since the Wright Bros. How was it flying the Wright Flyer? Was it a little heavy on the controls?

 

[Iam3rd]

I have taken the time to read your 'other posts' Gooooooogester.

You come across in another thread as an expert and couldn't even name your own equipments avionics.

The XL and XLS have HoneyBucket. The XLS + will have Collins ProLine 21. Not, EPIC like the CE-680.

Now, why did I mention this. Because you are just as much out to lunch in this area of Union vs Non-Union.

Get some years and education before you lecture folks with 30 plus years in the biz.

You are a child and children should only be seen and not heard.

Use your ears and stop running your mouth.

Otherwise, get ready for the responses you have already recieved to continue.

Plus is this all you can come up with to discredit me? I don't claim to be an expert on the excel. If it was up to you guys y'all would censor anyone who had a differing opinion than you. I still don't understand why y'all have to discredit and bash anyone who says something that you don't agree with.

 

[Diesel]

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house. Calling their house and making death threats.....and don't tell me this stuff doesn't happen. I know for fact it does. The union did it to my father.....Now you know why I disagree with the union so much!

It all makes sense now.

Someone has some real bitterness. Looks like it's more you than us.

Oh well.

Good luck with that chip on your shoulder.

PS The union didn't do it to your father. Your father did it to himself.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house.

We don't claim those as ours. They are SCABS.

Do a google search.

A friend would never SCAB. Your Dad messed up.

It's okay to be wrong, but never to SCAB.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Gooogester

Let me make this very clear to you my young friend.

I will rip any pilot a new one if he crossed the picket line. I walked the line in 1989 and saw a number of scumbags cross in front of me in PHL.

A person who crosses a line is lower then the lowest scum that the good Lord could ever create. And as such, I hope they dries up and blow away once the sunlight hits them.

If your family member did what you claim he did then he deserves everthing he got and 100% more.......For crossing a picket line he should be living in a refridgerator box begging for hand outs.

I hope this is perfectly clear to you....

You hit a nerve buddy......

 

[Iam3rd]

It all makes sense now.

Someone has some real bitterness. Looks like it's more you than us.

Oh well.

Good luck with that chip on your shoulder.

PS The union didn't do it to your father. Your father did it to himself.

So by your comment you are saying that the union is completly justified in what it did......its so amazing how y'all keep proving my point.

And I don't have any bitterness or a chip on my shoulder. Its just that I have seen unions for how they really are, not what they are betrayed to be like by the union its self or the media.

 

[Diesel]

And I don't have any bitterness or a chip on my shoulder. Its just that I have seen unions for how they really are, not what they are betrayed to be like by the union its self or the media.

No you're not delusional.

That would be portrayed.

itself

Your dad crossed the line. I can't prove any of that stuff happened. Maybe that's what he told you, who knows.

Looks like someone has been watching the movie Hoffa a little too much though.

 

[Iam3rd]

Gooogester

Let me make this very clear to you my young friend.

I will rip any pilot a new one if he crossed the picket line. I walked the line in 1989 and saw a number of scumbags cross in front of me in PHL.

A person who crosses a line is lower then the lowest scum that the good Lord could ever create. And as such, I hope they dries up and blow away once the sunlight hits them.

If your family member did what you claim he did then he deserves everthing he got and 100% more.......For crossing a picket line he should be living in a refridgerator box begging for hand outs.

I hope this is perfectly clear to you....

You hit a nerve buddy......

And thank you sir for also proving my point. You just proved my point better than I could have myself. Do you realize that the comments you just made are the basis for communism. Everything communist did was based on the fact that, The end justifies the means. Which is exactly what you are saying. Your saying that what ever my father receive was justified to achieve the unions end goal. And from the sounds of it you would have been just fine if he had been killed.

Its such a shame.......but this is america and we can have the freedom to think and say what ever we want, but Lord help us if the majority start thinking this way.

 

[Iam3rd]

No you're not delusional.

That would be portrayed.

itself

Your dad crossed the line. I can't prove any of that stuff happened. Maybe that's what he told you, who knows.

Looks like someone has been watching the movie Hoffa a little too much though.

I guess that would be the easyest thing for you to say. Just descredit all of it........its not just what my dad told me...its what we lived through as a family.

 

[Diesel]

then he should have stood side by side with his fellow pilots to stop the raping of his airline.

you can try and justify it all you want. Your dad wasn't fighting comunism he was looking out for number 1 by screwing his fellow pilots.

Great job. Eeeeech

 

[Iam3rd]

then he should have stood side by side with his fellow pilots to stop the raping of his airline.

you can try and justify it all you want. Your dad wasn't fighting comunism he was looking out for number 1 by screwing his fellow pilots.

Great job. Eeeeech

Believe it or not he was not an airline pilot. He was a High School teacher. He felt it was more important to show up to class for his students than to walk a city union picket all day. While he was in class was when the other teachers put sand in our gas tank......talk about setting a bad example for students.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Believe it or not he was not an airline pilot. He was a High School teacher. He felt it was more important to show up to class for his students than to walk a city union picket all day. While he was in class was when the other teachers put sand in our gas tank......talk about setting a bad example for students.

Being a teacher doesn't make the fact that your father SCABbed any less wrong.

Don't be so idealistic to believe the excuses your dad made to you as to his reasons to cross an officially sanctioned Primary Strike Picket Line authorized by the NLRA.

He was concerned about the bottom line, money. Kids? Whatever.

By the way, I saw your new signature "Vote Non-Union".

You can thank the Union that printed the ballots to allow you the opportunity to vote.

 

[Iam3rd]

Being a teacher doesn't make the fact that your father SCABbed any less wrong.

Don't be so idealistic to believe the excuses your dad made to you as to his reasons to cross an officially sanctioned Primary Strike Picket Line authorized by the NLRA.

He was concerned about the bottom line, money. Kids? Whatever.

By the way, I saw your new signature "Vote Non-Union".

You can thank the Union that printed the ballots to allow you the opportunity to vote.

Like I said before, with you guys, "the end justifies the means"......and we know where that thinking comes from.

 

[Iam3rd]

Being a teacher doesn't make the fact that your father SCABbed any less wrong.

Don't be so idealistic to believe the excuses your dad made to you as to his reasons to cross an officially sanctioned Primary Strike Picket Line authorized by the NLRA.

He was concerned about the bottom line, money. Kids? Whatever.

By the way, I saw your new signature "Vote Non-Union".

You can thank the Union that printed the ballots to allow you the opportunity to vote.

Explain to me why a person does not have the freedom to think for himself and decide for himself whether he wants to be apart of a union regardless of what the majority think. According to you there is no freedom and its believe what we believe or else you will pay the price. I thought this was America not Russia

 

[Diesel]

It is america, thats why unions were created to stand against injustices of an outside force.

Without us being in america that ability to stand up against opression would be crushed by those same outside forces.

Obviously the other teachers felt that the outside forces were enough to make a stand, and have the gonads to do it.

 

[fischman]

Oh... my... God....

Googester. Seriously dude. Give it up.

Your Dad is a SCAB. End of deal.

Let me try to explain what your Dad did, and what I believe you would do if you had the opportunity. He put the livelihood of each of his friends and co-workers in jeopardy. You better believe that if someone threatens to take food off my kids plate, he is going to have sand in his gas tank. Here is how serious this is: If my dad crossed my picket line, he would be dead to me. END OF DEAL.

The inner circle of HELL is reserved for betrayers and mutineers.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Explain to me why a person does not have the freedom to think for himself and decide for himself whether he wants to be apart of a union regardless of what the majority think. According to you there is no freedom and its believe what we believe or else you will pay the price. I thought this was America not Russia.

Unions: As American as Apple Pie.

He worked for a Union Shop. He was part of a Union.

The Union went on STRIKE.

He weaked out and crossed.

Your dad is a SCAB.

A Union represents many people. Your dad thought his "needs" were more important than everyone elses. That is not a principle that a Union works on. Quite the opposite. Unions use Unity, Pride and Strength to lift EVERYONE up, not just one. Also important to note is that Unions just don't materialize on a property out of thin air. Companies that have Unions need/deserve the Union. The employees vot the Union in through a Vote (DEMOCRATIC).

In a room of several hundred or thousands everyone couldn't possibly speak simultaneously to reperesent themselves. That is where a Union comes in handy to "speak" for a membership through votes. Your dad's Union voted (DEMOCRATIC) YES to a STRIKE. The Union didn't just wake up one day and start one.

Your dad failed to grasp that fact. Your dad is a SCAB. He committed the ultimate selfish act.

Anyway Goober... enjoy FLEX. The chat has been nice. As you get older, you will most doubtably add experiences to your person. You perspective on things may change, it may not. It really doesn't matter to me.

We have a STRONG UNION over here at NJA. We have Brotherhood. If I have a problem, a Brother has my back. I know I have suppot and it feels good... so does my paycheck.

 

[honeycomb]

Plus I never claimed to be the expert on the excel. Its been a number of years since I flew one. I was just stating what I heard.

You are Typed on the XL/XLS aren't you? And, with only 2600 hours of experience I would think it would be pretty fresh since it is only one of two types you have.

I havent' flown the ATR/ERJ/CRJ/737/G1159/etc. in a long time but I can still answer questions about them.

Also, if it is what you heard then you don't have much experience to start with. We typically speak to that which we know and not have heard. Or, we don't speak at all. Even more so .. we don't say it as truth and then later when called out on it say it is what we heard. Maybe you should have stated it that way in the first place.

I recommend you start the house keeping at home first before you tell others to watch their house keeping. You have a lot of work on your problems to keep you bussssssy for the next century.

 

[honeycomb]

Its such a shame.......but this is america and we can have the freedom to think and say what ever we want, but Lord help us if the majority start thinking this way.

Actually "NO" you cannot 'say what ever you want'.

You cannot scream Fire in a movie theatre.

That is just one example.

Personally I recommend you get a refund on your Public Education.

 

[Iam3rd]

Actually "NO" you cannot 'say what ever you want'.

You cannot scream Fire in a movie theatre.

That is just one example.

Personally I recommend you get a refund on your Public Education.

I'm just thankful that most americans don't think the way you guys do. Otherwise we would all be screwed....and its so funny everytime I mention y'all having communist thinking, you don't even denie it......I guess you can't because fact it fact. Y'all believe the end justifies the means. I guess y'all don't mind being a bunch of communist.......But I guess thats your right.

 

[Diesel]

you all not y'all

deny not denie

 

[Iam3rd]

you all not y'all

deny not denie

Well, when you're from the south its y'all......the other was a typo.....But I am sure y'all have never mis spelled before...

 

[Diesel]

Good luck with that. Maybe your dad should have educated you instead of crossing the line.

Hopefully you'll get over that shame of your dad crossing the line and stop blaming the unions for his choice. I doubt it but who knows.

 

[honeycomb]

Good luck with that. Maybe your dad should have educated you instead of crossing the line.

Hopefully you'll get over that shame of your dad crossing the line and stop blaming the unions for his choice. I doubt it but who knows.

Actually Diesel....I think that he doesn't want a union so he doesn't have to show his true colors and be just as shameful as his father when the time comes.

Goooooooberster has judged his heart on the matter and it shows.


Enter my statement...

Actually "NO" you cannot 'say what ever you want'.

You cannot scream Fire in a movie theatre.

That is just one example.

Personally I recommend you get a refund on your Public Education.

Enter your statement...

I'm just thankful that most americans don't think the way you guys do. Otherwise we would all be screwed....and its so funny everytime I mention y'all having communist thinking, you don't even denie it......I guess you can't because fact it fact. Y'all believe the end justifies the means. I guess y'all don't mind being a bunch of communist.......But I guess thats your right.

So you don't deny you need a refund on your Public (Government) Education.

No one has used the word communist that I've seen except you. Further more what does it have to do with my statement?

Are you saying that we are communist because we don't agree with you? Are you the standard bearer for the True American that we must not be because we don't agree with you? Are you saying that because we haven't broken the law and screamed Fire in a crowded movie theatre that we are communist? I'm a little confused on how you managed to leap from not being able to say anything you want to you are a communist. Any thoughts on how you got this screwed up in logic? Are you capable of logical thought?

Also, since when did we all/I become communist's? Was it the day I joined the C.A.P.? Or the day I joined the boy scouts? Or the day I went to college? Or was it when I joined the U.S. Navy? Could it have been when I went to war in a far away country? Could it have been the day I got an Honorable Discharge for my service to this country (the greatest country on the planet..The United States of America)? Please help us with your thoughts 'oh wise one (not).

I wonder aloud. Exactly where did you get your education....was it your father (who seems to make as many excuses as you do)?


As a side note:

Mr. Goooobester I don't know you personally so please don't take this personally. Your Stupid if you think you have any facts that prove I'm a communist. (You see Ignorant is fixable....Stupid is not.)

BTW, please learn to proof your statements before you submit them. Its called an Edit button. Try it sometime in the future.

 

[Iam3rd]

Actually Diesel....I think that he doesn't want a union so he doesn't have to show his true colors and be just as shameful as his father when the time comes.

Goooooooberster has judged his heart on the matter and it shows.


Enter my statement...



Enter your statement...



So you don't deny you need a refund on your Public (Government) Education.

No one has used the word communist that I've seen except you. Further more what does it have to do with my statement?

Are you saying that we are communist because we don't agree with you? Are you the standard bearer for the True American that we must not be because we don't agree with you? Are you saying that because we haven't broken the law and screamed Fire in a crowded movie theatre that we are communist? I'm a little confused on how you managed to leap from not being able to say anything you want to you are a communist. Any thoughts on how you got this screwed up in logic? Are you capable of logical thought?

Also, since when did we all/I become communist's? Was it the day I joined the C.A.P.? Or the day I joined the boy scouts? Or the day I went to college? Or was it when I joined the U.S. Navy? Could it have been when I went to war in a far away country? Could it have been the day I got an Honorable Discharge for my service to this country (the greatest country on the planet..The United States of America)? Please help us with your thoughts 'oh wise one (not).

I wonder aloud. Exactly where did you get your education....was it your father (who seems to make as many excuses as you do)?


As a side note:

Mr. Goooobester I don't know you personally so please don't take this personally. Your Stupid if you think you have any facts that prove I'm a communist. (You see Ignorant is fixable....Stupid is not.)

BTW, please learn to proof your statements before you submit them. Its called an Edit button. Try it sometime in the future.

I explained how I came up with communist if you were reading and not being so busy listening to yourself talk. The basis for communism is....The end justifies the means. And that is what y'all admitted to earlier. But I don't believe you will admit to being a communist, but your line of thinking is the same. With regards to how you justify your actions.

I have to admit everytime y'all make a post, all you do is prove my points and show how nasty and cruel the union can be to anyone who has a differing opinion. You have said that if you work for a company that is a union, you do not have the freedom to think for yourself. You must let the union do that for you....and if you do have a different opinion and act contrary to the union...the union members are willing to do things to you are are illegal....sounds so much like communism to me....... Y'all think its ok to put sand in someones gas tank or make death threats. Because you said that my father deserved everything he got and more. Like I said, to y'all, the end justifies the means. Basis for communism. But you want to tell me its not ok to yell fire in a movie theater.........where did you say you got your education again?