To all NetJets Hopefuls...

[DLF8108]

RE: New hire F/O attrition

Be careful drawing "purely subjectively inferences" from "flat" statistics. None of us knows the individual reason a new hire F/O leaves NJA after 6 mos.

No training contract = free type rating = no penalty for "giving it a try".

 

[Iam3rd]

Ah, someone who hasn't been screwed yet.

Thats right, I haven't been screwed by a union yet and I trying to keep it that way.

 

[imacdog]

Thats right, I haven't been screwed by a union yet and I trying to keep it that way.

Dude you have some pretty strong opinions for having exactly zero first-hand experience with unions.

 

[RJ Bum]

Be careful drawing "purely subjectively inferences" from "flat" statistics. None of us knows the individual reason a new hire F/O leaves NJA after 6 mos.

No training contract = free type rating = no penalty for "giving it a try".

So, how many guys are leaving?

 

[Cavpilot]

In typical flightinfo fashion, this thread has gone off on several tangents. Let me reiterate the bottom line here...

If you decide to come to NetJets, you will be based out of one of five domiciles for at least the duration of the current CBA. This is the reality of the situation no matter what anyone else tells you. If however, one of the five domiciles fits into your life don't hesitate to come here. NetJets is one of the best gigs in aviation (for now anyway).

Do your research before applying. Go to the IBT 1108 New Hire Section for information. Also there are, believe it or not, some very knowledgeable NetJets pilots that frequent this board. If you PM them I'm sure most of them would be glad to help you out. I know I've talked to several people that now number among our ranks.

 

[Diesel]

As soon as they conflict it will be lonely standing there by yourself.

Yeah it was lonely standing in oma, bed, teb, pbi.........

 

[acaTerry]

Thats right, I haven't been screwed by a union yet and I trying to keep it that way.

Man oh man, are you a knowitall for someone with 2600 hrs and limited experience. Lots of us have worked BOTH sides and can say FROM EXPERIENCE what we are telling you.
Just wait till your part 91 dream company needs to cut some money and the flight dept (you) are the first to go...high and dry.

 

[Iam3rd]

Man oh man, are you a knowitall for someone with 2600 hrs and limited experience. Lots of us have worked BOTH sides and can say FROM EXPERIENCE what we are telling you.
Just wait till your part 91 dream company needs to cut some money and the flight dept (you) are the first to go...high and dry.

Airlines and fractionals do the same thing......furlough.....whats the difference? Nobody is immune to it.....union or nonunion

 

[Diesel]

Wow NJ furloughed? Hmmmmm Somebody forgot to tell the hiring department.
25+ years ago they did but that hardly applies. Remember though this buisness was in its infancy and they were still creating the buisness.

 

[learflyer]

Mmmmm! Anyone try Bubbalou's BBQ in Orlando?
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[FLYLOW22]

Ah, someone who hasn't been screwed yet.

Or walked a picket line. Or seen the fruits of true Unity.

He won't need it at FLEX.

 

[fischman]

Googester managed to hijack 2 threads by his mere presence. I think he may want to lay off the "Vote no" crap, or we aren't going to get anything done...

 

[Iam3rd]

Googester managed to hijack 2 threads by his mere presence. I think he may want to lay off the "Vote no" crap, or we aren't going to get anything done...

Did I hear my name mentioned?

 

[Iam3rd]

Its so amazing how y'all feel your opinions are the only ones that matter and as soon as someone with a differing opinion comes along, y'all cuss them out and rip them a new one. Granted, there is nothing wrong about having a civilized debate about differing opinions, but y'all take it too personal and too extream. A person can even hear the anger within your post....one of you even wanted to put your fist through a wall.

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house. Calling their house and making death threats.....and don't tell me this stuff doesn't happen. I know for fact it does. The union did it to my father.....Now you know why I disagree with the union so much!

But at the same time that is why I love this country so much, because we can each have the freedom to have our own opinions and express them.

 

[honeycomb]

Its so amazing how y'all feel your opinions are the only ones that matter and as soon as someone with a differing opinion comes along, y'all cuss them out and rip them a new one. Granted, there is nothing wrong about having a civilized debate about differing opinions, but y'all take it too personal and too extream. A person can even hear the anger within your post....one of you even wanted to put your fist through a wall.

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house. Calling their house and making death threats.....and don't tell me this stuff doesn't happen. I know for fact it does. The union did it to my father.....Now you know why I disagree with the union so much!

But at the same time that is why I love this country so much, because we can each have the freedom to have our own opinions and express them.

I have taken the time to read your 'other posts' Gooooooogester.

You come across in another thread as an expert and couldn't even name your own equipments avionics.

The XL and XLS have HoneyBucket. The XLS + will have Collins ProLine 21. Not, EPIC like the CE-680.

Now, why did I mention this. Because you are just as much out to lunch in this area of Union vs Non-Union.

Get some years and education before you lecture folks with 30 plus years in the biz.

You are a child and children should only be seen and not heard.

Use your ears and stop running your mouth.

Otherwise, get ready for the responses you have already recieved to continue.

 

[Iam3rd]

I have taken the time to read your 'other posts' Gooooooogester.

You come across in another thread as an expert and couldn't even name your own equipments avionics.

The XL and XLS have HoneyBucket. The XLS + will have Collins ProLine 21. Not, EPIC like the CE-680.

Now, why did I mention this. Because you are just as much out to lunch in this area of Union vs Non-Union.

Get some years and education before you lecture folks with 30 plus years in the biz.

You are a child and children should only be seen and not heard.

Use your ears and stop running your mouth.

Otherwise, get ready for the responses you have already recieved to continue.

Ya know....you can't even quote a quote right.

What I said was the XLS+ was suppose to get the Soverign avonics. I know for fact that was the plan at one time, but from what I understand, do to the problems they have had with it they have gone with something else. Plus I never claimed to be the expert on the excel. Its been a number of years since I flew one. I was just stating what I heard.

But I tell you what....you sure do come across as a know it all. You must be a real joy to be with on a 5 day. I noticed you listed all your experience except you space shuttle time. From the sound of it you have been around since the Wright Bros. How was it flying the Wright Flyer? Was it a little heavy on the controls?

 

[Iam3rd]

I have taken the time to read your 'other posts' Gooooooogester.

You come across in another thread as an expert and couldn't even name your own equipments avionics.

The XL and XLS have HoneyBucket. The XLS + will have Collins ProLine 21. Not, EPIC like the CE-680.

Now, why did I mention this. Because you are just as much out to lunch in this area of Union vs Non-Union.

Get some years and education before you lecture folks with 30 plus years in the biz.

You are a child and children should only be seen and not heard.

Use your ears and stop running your mouth.

Otherwise, get ready for the responses you have already recieved to continue.

Plus is this all you can come up with to discredit me? I don't claim to be an expert on the excel. If it was up to you guys y'all would censor anyone who had a differing opinion than you. I still don't understand why y'all have to discredit and bash anyone who says something that you don't agree with.

 

[Diesel]

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house. Calling their house and making death threats.....and don't tell me this stuff doesn't happen. I know for fact it does. The union did it to my father.....Now you know why I disagree with the union so much!

It all makes sense now.

Someone has some real bitterness. Looks like it's more you than us.

Oh well.

Good luck with that chip on your shoulder.

PS The union didn't do it to your father. Your father did it to himself.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Not to mention the way y'all will treat your own when they cross the picket line......putting sand in their gas tank, vandelizing their car and their house.

We don't claim those as ours. They are SCABS.

Do a google search.

A friend would never SCAB. Your Dad messed up.

It's okay to be wrong, but never to SCAB.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Gooogester

Let me make this very clear to you my young friend.

I will rip any pilot a new one if he crossed the picket line. I walked the line in 1989 and saw a number of scumbags cross in front of me in PHL.

A person who crosses a line is lower then the lowest scum that the good Lord could ever create. And as such, I hope they dries up and blow away once the sunlight hits them.

If your family member did what you claim he did then he deserves everthing he got and 100% more.......For crossing a picket line he should be living in a refridgerator box begging for hand outs.

I hope this is perfectly clear to you....

You hit a nerve buddy......