the unfathomable:regional crew attempted takeoff with one engine turning

[relief tube]

this morning out of GSO our erj 145 crew flying us en route to O Hare took a takeoff clearance on runway 23. took it on the roll and lined up, applied full power. within seconds the flight spoilers deployed. at the exit, i noticed along with another pax, and a another major airline pilot, that #1 was spooling up. we all heard it. we confronted the crew at the gate. they missed it and they confessed. I called the feds. the insanity stops. this is unfathomable..

the tower said they didn't mention it...go figure...but one thing is clear ..they took the runway, lined up, applied full power to two, and then aborted, the spoilers deployed...

this story may break in the next few days... #1 was not running......

You called the feds you ******************** - stick? Serious or are you flaming?

This'd happen every now and then if the major CA's actually did single engine taxis

Landing on a taxiway is a hell of a lot more idiotic than applying full power and aborting without even considering taking off.

 

[Crash Pad]

How is this disgusting? I don't agree with calling the feds right away as one pro to another, but come on. If it's true, then CRM in this industry needs to be re-examined.

 

[Dornier 335]

That most of the current regional CAs have thousands upon thousands of hours of turbine PIC? That this could have happened at a legacy, lcc, cargo, etc just as easily? What exactly are you trying to say?

Let's not forget that veteran RJ guys have twice (if not more) the number of sectors/legs flown per day and/or total than any legacy or cargo pilot.

This guy is a t00l, it shouldn't be difficult to find out who he is, anyone with access to the pax list out there?

The aviation world is very small. Be careful what bridge you burn. You just made the mistake of your lifetime. We will find you.

If it's true, then CRM in this industry needs to be re-examined.

... and let's not forget to analyze certain scheduling practices!

 

[Crash Pad]

AND, for those who blame the single engine taxi. Try pulling out the SINGLE ENGINE TAXI checklist. Watch out for each other sometimes.

 

[Crash Pad]

What does scheduling have to do with a possible TO sans number 1 running? If you are fatigued thats another issue, if it's the first flight of the day then sorry.

 

[tyuwerty]

A mistake was made. It was corrected before they t/o.

I see the OP didn't make a stink till after he got to where he was going. Pretty weak character on the part of the Original Poster. If it was a big enough problem in your eyes to call the Feds and the Media, it was big enough to stop the flight.

 

[paddlehigh]

you contacted the feds, you duece bag.

 

[timmay]

A mistake was made. It was corrected before they t/o.

I see the OP didn't make a stink till after he got to where he was going. Pretty weak character on the part of the Original Poster. If it was a big enough problem in your eyes to call the Feds and the Media, it was big enough to stop the flight.

The mistake was only corrected because engineers have ALMOST completely idiot proofed the cockpit. How long would it have taken them to figure out what was going on without the T/O config warning?
I don't understand how you all think these kinds of mistakes are acceptable. Obviously they didn't even glance at the EICAS before taking the runway.

Maybe some of us demand more of ourselves and our peers than others.

 

[tyuwerty]

The mistake was only corrected because engineers have ALMOST completely idiot proofed the cockpit. How long would it have taken them to figure out what was going on without the T/O config warning?
I don't understand how you all think these kinds of mistakes are acceptable. Obviously they didn't even glance at the EICAS before taking the runway.

Maybe some of us demand more of ourselves and our peers than others.

That is your opinion, it is a legitimate one at that, I disagree. Even without warnings and without looking at the gauges, I can't see anyone getting above a few knots into the T/O roll. Improperly selected flaps have killed a lot more people that taking off with half your power available. I would be surprised if it ever happened by accident on a 2 engine airplane.

However... If you are going to hold them to such a high standard. Why wait till you get to the destination to make a stink? If they were so unsafe in the eyes of the OP, that it warranted media attention, logically it would follow that they were too unsafe to fly the AC to the destination.

My beef isn't with calling the Feds, although I think that was over kill. I think that calling the Media and seeking a few minutes of fame at the expense of these guys is the real scuzzy part.

 

[DrewBlows]

Sounds like flame to me, but there is a lesson to be learned. Don't ever admit to making a mistake to a passenger or jump-seater. ASAP and/or ASRS are the way to go.

Pilots make mistakes, this will never change. The question is whether or not we learn from our mistakes.