Benhuntn
Deer Fear Me
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The Prussian said:Since when, at any time in history, in any occuption, has concern for the unemployed/unhired been a concern?? You set your goals, do your homework or whatever it takes.....to land your job based purely on supporting yourself and/or your family,and hopefully a sense of enjoyment and fulfillment along the way in your chosen profession. Where does stepping aside to allow "the great unwashed masses" to "have a chance" enter into anybody's equation? Where does this "logic" come from??
Furthermore...where do you get the idea/insinuation that the younger ones are "those who really need to make more money"??!?
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Bringupthebird said:You are assuming that 100% of the eligible pilots will choose to remain, which is not realistic. And many other things could contribute to being stuck at one seniority level for 3 years (or more). This isn't a windfall for retiring pilots any more than the Civil Rights movement was a windfall to minorities. It's making something that has been wrong for years, right.
ROJO said:Oh man, what a mess. I left my job at a regional a few years ago to find a new career. Best move I ever made. I spent many nights staring at the ceiling fan wondering if I'd made the right choice. Now it seems pretty clear I did.
I feel bad for all you folks out there. Maybe ALPA or some other collective pilot group could figure out a way to create a pension fund to cover all member pilots? If it was created by pilots, for pilots, it might work.
Klako said:The ICAO Secretariat has recommended a new upper age limit, with restriction to multi-crew, of 65 years. http://http://www.icao.int/cgi/goto_m_med.pl?icao/en/med/age_limit.htm.
This recommendation is based on extensive studies, global experience (data compiled from 63 States) with older pilots, totaling 25,500 pilot-years, and the expressed wish of 93 States. The International Civil Aviation Organization—ICAO, now recognizes the harm of the age 60 rule standard and Proposes to amend the international standard to age 65, which should become applicable on 23 November 2006. http://http://commerce.senate.gov/newsroom/printable.cfm?id=249035.
The Burns substitute amendment to The U.S. Senate Bill S. 65, if voted into law by the U.S. Congress, would direct the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) Secretary to adopt the ICAO standard or recommended practice within 30 days after the ICAO acts on the matter.
The Burns substitute to U.S. Senate Bill S.65 allows pilots, who have previously been terminated or had a cessation of employment at a commercial air carrier because of the Age 60 restriction, to seek re-employment at a commercial air carrier. However, pilots cannot file suit to gain re-employment and cannot file suit to reclaim seniority under any labor agreement in effect between a recognized bargaining unit for pilots and an air carrier engaged in commercial operations.