The latest on the AWA and AAA seniority

[BeCareful!]

MCDU, not sure who elected you the FI.com spokesperson for the East. Your stuff is somewhat inflamatory and unprofessional. Why not let the real powers that be settle this and let the Westie Keyboard Commandos on here play with their own cranks?

None of what is said here matters. Not in the slightest. What are you, anyway? Are you and MDA guy? Are you really just a GIA dude with nothing better to do? If you think you're helping some cause on here, trust me, you ain't. Just let it be and let the chips fall where they will.

BC

 

[MCDU]

I used to fly for Gulfstream then I got furloughed. That is what Dope in an RJ says. I do not work for USAIR. Me and Dope were in the same intial til he flunked out because of tourette syndrom.

M

 

[reepicheep]

MCDUs' not some extremist; this is how they really think as a group. Why else are we going to trial? The whole world except the usair pilots understand the difference between longevity and seniority.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

MCDU, not sure who elected you the FI.com spokesperson for the East.

Nobody! He's suffering from Turrets syndrome. Funny thing is, of all the things in this world to try to aspire to be, why an easthole?:laugh:

Your stuff is somewhat inflamatory and unprofessional.

That's because mcdoosh isn't a real pilot. Just some pant leg scratcher wanting attention.

Why not let the real powers that be settle this and let the Westie Keyboard Commandos on here play with their own cranks?

Speaking of playing with cranks, do you want to know the reason mcdoosh was fired from Gulfstream international? Well, we'll just leave that one for the Darwin awards!

None of what is said here matters. Not in the slightest. What are you, anyway?

He's a flaming homo! Note the references to the NGPA outings!

Are you and MDA guy?

Nope!

Are you really just a GIA dude with nothing better to do?

Yup!

If you think you're helping some cause on here, trust me, you ain't. Just let it be and let the chips fall where they will.

BC

He can't help himself. When his parents lock him in the closet and they forget to give him his meds, the above posting is a reslut.

 

[MCDU]

MCDUs' not some extremist; this is how they really think as a group. Why else are we going to trial? The whole world except the usair pilots understand the difference between longevity and seniority.

seniority Anoun1 longevity, seniority
the property of being long-lived Category Tree: abstraction ╚attribute ╚property ╚age ╚oldness ╚longevity, seniority





2 seniority, senior status, higher status, higher rank
higher rank than that of others especially by reason of longer service Category Tree: state ╚status; position ╚high status ╚seniority, senior status, higher status, higher rank




Look up "seniority" at Merriam-Webster
Look up "seniority" at dictionary.com

Forum discussions with the word(s) 'seniority' in the title:

employer's substitution and seniority recognition
to ask someone how many years seniority they have
seniority
seniority/age/length of relationship?
Employee Seniority
seniority lapse

Its funny how people try to change things. Reminds me of some people are trying to remake the definition of marriage. Seniority has everything to do with longevity. Anything else is BS.

M

 

[Carl S.]

Can an Eastie please respond to my question of blame on the last page? Is it really the world against the East pilots or just their way of dealing with decisions that do not go their way? If Wake rules against the East in May, does that make him a senile old man(mid-50's) or just corrupt? He could not be correct and rule against the East's viewpoint could he?

 

[Fubijaakr]

Scope,

I believe its "Tourette's Syndrome".

 

[AutoBus]

I know it must be tough not cashing in on a lottery ticket. The junior AWA F/O's on here would have about almost 1000 Easties below him and would be around 60% up the list.

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M

Perhaps, but HE WOULD HOLD EXACTELY THE SAME POSITION (IE Reserve 737 FO, etc) HE HELD PRE-MERGER - Therefore it's FAIR!

In Your little dream world, Your Pre-Merger 1988 Hire Reserve 737 FO would somehow magically leapfrog and hold Airbus Line Holder Captain. - That's a WINDFALL and NOT FAIR.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Poor MCDU, he keeps whacking the hornets nest and nothing happens. Maybe a kindly adult will sit him down and explain the issue to him.

Slowly.

 

[BeCareful!]

Perhaps, but HE WOULD HOLD EXACTELY THE SAME POSITION (IE Reserve 737 FO, etc) HE HELD PRE-MERGER - Therefore it's FAIR!

Really? Why would a guy with over 1000 below him choose to be a reserve 737 FO? Something doesn't add up there, Chief.

In Your little dream world, Your Pre-Merger 1988 Hire Reserve 737 FO would somehow magically leapfrog and hold Airbus Line Holder Captain. - That's a WINDFALL and NOT FAIR.

And that's also a huge, inflamatory bunch of BS. Sad that none of you guys will be real with your explanations. The only windfall in all of this would be the NIC with no restrictions whatsoever. It's bull$#!t, everyone knows it (except, of course, for the FI.com regulars here in westie playland), and there are people trying to stop it. Nicolau is an idiot, U-APLA acted like a bunch of idiots as they have for decades, and this mess was the result.

Furthermore, furlough isn't some scorge upon a pilot's house, family, and reputation. Furlough is the ultimate concession to save the ship. I would never tell your West furloughees that their DOH doesn't count, or that if we merge with, say, UAL or AA that they should get stapled. That mentality is very strong on the West, isn't it....that furloughed guys are total losers and should get nothing? Well, you guys can try to f&^% your own furloughees.....we will have stick up for them just as we are trying to stick up for our own by returning Date of Hire to its rightful place in organized labor.

Given your history, your scabs, your relative newby status to being union pilots, I'm sure that westies will be screaming for DOH given the correct set of merger circumstances. Too bad you don't just man up now, because you'll look like real @ss wipe hypocrites when you do.

Meantime, we'll continue to look out for your furloughed pilots, paying for their medical insurance, and hoping for their return. If we merge before then, we won't be like you westies and tell 'em "too bad you wern't "on property" when the merge happened, cause now you're screwed forever."

DOH...MF's!!!!!!

 

[Ocity]

DOH...MF's!!!!!!

See you April 28th!!! The weather is beautiful, come on out and watch the dismantling of USAPA first hand. It'll be a blast.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Poor MCDU, he keeps whacking the hornets nest and nothing happens.

He's whacking alright, but I don't think its a hornets nest. I believe its more of an east pilot. That's where he gets his info from.
Let's not forget about his "backhand antics" at the gay outings he rants about.

Maybe a kindly adult will sit him down and explain the issue to him.

Slowly.

I doubt it.

 

[Turtle21]

In this you are correct. However if you do not believe that he can amend the TA and order the list implemented, call up usapa and ask seham what a Federal Judge can and can't do. On second thought, if you want a real answer and not the delusional answer. Ask most any other legal entity. You may find out that the Judge is just like an Emperor in this area if he follows the law.

Anyone can speculate what the judge will do. No matter what he does it is subject to higher authority.
The proposition that the judge will be the last word is a pipe dream, not matter what he comes up with.

ALPA has tied two cats together by their tails and thrown them over a cloths line.. and then hit them with a stick. And some people actually think the judge is gonna reach in there and convince the cats to stop fighting. He could separate the cats by a thousand miles and they would spend the rest of their life clawing and scratching back to the fight.

 

[becket]

Anyone can speculate what the judge will do. No matter what he does it is subject to higher authority.
The proposition that the judge will be the last word is a pipe dream, not matter what he comes up with.

ALPA has tied two cats together by their tails and thrown them over a cloths line.. and then hit them with a stick. And some people actually think the judge is gonna reach in there and convince the cats to stop fighting. He could separate the cats by a thousand miles and they would spend the rest of their life clawing and scratching back to the fight.

The Judge is going end this. Sure, the East will appeal a loss...appeals to contract law cases in the 9th circuit have a less than 2% success rate. Judge Wake, Literally wrote a book on appeals and the legal process of such. Good Luck with that avenue.

When you start painting yourself into a corner, eventually you WILL run out of room. It's taken USAPA just a little more than a year to do so. Go to www.cactuspilot.com and read the updates...the latest one is really good. Read through all the updates and get educated on the reality of your situation.

 

[Full of LUV]

What??????

Anyone can speculate what the judge will do. No matter what he does it is subject to higher authority.
The proposition that the judge will be the last word is a pipe dream, not matter what he comes up with.

ALPA has tied two cats together by their tails and thrown them over a cloths line.. and then hit them with a stick. And some people actually think the judge is gonna reach in there and convince the cats to stop fighting. He could separate the cats by a thousand miles and they would spend the rest of their life clawing and scratching back to the fight.

I think somewhere, PETA is drawing up an objection to your negative portrayal of cats in this analogy.....

 

[241BlujucCktl]

Every US Air topic always degenerates to this I think you think BS. How about we solve this with a 40 year fence. Let the furloughs or jobs fall where they may.

 

[captairbusbb]

After all the BS postings on this thread, the bottom line is Judge Wake will make his ruling on or about May 8th, with a jury trial.

What ever the outcome is, USAPA will try to appeal, however, Judge Wake has maintained that the ruling will be final, BINDING.....read USAPA attorney semen, BINDING.....meaning, no more BS, no more delaying, no more twisting of facts, move on and stop billing the constituency of your failed experimental union (association) into oblivion. Unfortunately, the so called "Good Union Pilots" will probably continue to donate to semen and company until this place implodes.

Funny how USAPA wants to sue the company for not following BINDING agreements while they don't honor their previous BINDING agreements with their fellow pilots........Quite the conundrum they've developed!!

Cheers!!

 

[Sandhawk]

Nicolau is an idiot (Give me a break) , U-APLA acted like a bunch of idiots as they have for decades, and this mess was the result.(Preach on, Brother Beavis)

Furthermore, furlough isn't some scorge upon a pilot's house, family, and reputation. Furlough is the ultimate concession to save the ship. (So why am I furloughed while a new-hire on the East is still working, or what about the 6 eastwipes that were recalled to the West and then allowed to return to the East when they were furloughed? - You're welcome, Asswipe)

Meantime, we'll continue to look out for your furloughed pilots (Are you fXXking kidding me?), paying for their medical insurance (really? Where the fXXk is my insurance then ??) , and hoping for their return (yeah, I'll believe that when hell freezes over). If we merge before then, we won't be like you westies and tell 'em "too bad you wern't "on property" when the merge happened, cause now you're screwed forever (I think you'll Wake up to the facts soon enough......)."

DOH...MF's!!!!!! (see your sentence about U-ALPA above)

Geebus, you Eastwipes are all alike.............

 

[Bringupthebird]

I would never tell your West furloughees that their DOH doesn't count, or that if we merge with, say, UAL or AA that they should get stapled.

Merge, huh? Why would anyone co-sign on a deadbeats mortgage when he could wait 3 months and buy the house for pennies on the dollar?

Sorry, there ain't gonna be any merger. The moose out front shoulda told ya.

 

[Turtle21]

The Judge is going end this. .....

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!