The Cleveland Spin Machine

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Not to be too hard on him, but isn't that what KR pays (and expects)him to do?

 

[doh]

They reported the names of both Phenom crews who had over runs. So who was the crew on this plane? Why aren't the Gutless, Cowardly, Backstabbing Liar and Southpark talking about how unprofessional these guys are? Because they are F'n POSes, that's why.

 

[exagony]

So the old options DO flew his Global thru a thunderstorm causing severe damage to the aircraft.

Source and further info?

 

[shanes123]

Source ???? I don't think so !!!! I heard from someone that usually don't spout BS unless they know. It was the old options DO. Low time inexperienced idiot. Like all the IRL Red Label pilots. If you saw the plane. You would realize how stupid these guys really are. Probably both of them will be promoted back into management again soon. That's how it works here for all you Flex guys who have been here over two years and still haven't figured it out!!!

 

[exagony]

Source ???? I don't think so !!!! I heard from someone that usually don't spout BS unless they know. It was the old options DO. Low time inexperienced idiot. Like all the IRL Red Label pilots. If you saw the plane. You would realize how stupid these guys really are. Probably both of them will be promoted back into management again soon. That's how it works here for all you Flex guys who have been here over two years and still haven't figured it out!!!

Source - was hoping there was a newspaper article - would have been great to show to the Flex pilots.

 

[shanes123]

Gotcha Not that I know of and probably won't be. Cant print something bad about the super pilots. But if something pops up I will be sure to share.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

I remember a few years back, Options had so many lightning strikes, we all had to do "special" training. This was mandated by our POI at the time. Anybody remember how many hits we had that year?

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Side deal????? Let's bring this stuff out in the open.

It's out in the open now for all to see.

 

[Bjtdrvr]

???????????

 

[Dirty Squirrel]

Source ???? I don't think so !!!! I heard from someone that usually don't spout BS unless they know. It was the old options DO. Low time inexperienced idiot. Like all the IRL Red Label pilots. If you saw the plane. You would realize how stupid these guys really are. Probably both of them will be promoted back into management again soon. That's how it works here for all you Flex guys who have been here over two years and still haven't figured it out!!!

You are spouting BS again! Where is the thunderstorm that they flew through? Looks like they deviated south of the cell. Look at Flightaware on Sept 5th. LXJ91 VNY to TEB.

Now I’m not saying they weren’t struck by lightening, but you look like an idiot for lying and smearing a guy because he’s anti-union management type. That DOES NOT promote solidarity!

 

[Imissmypilot]

Anyone can have a bad day. We need to be aware of that fact and act humbly in response to our coworkers.

However, with another high profile incident just today by anti union pilots (remember the Phenom crew was anti union too until the IBT came to their aid) owners should start to wonder if the promises of the Red Label program equate to the safety promised. While the company is expectedly close vested about these facts, we all secretely know the rules to being an FoK equate to less professionalism not more. The crew on this airplane is notoriously everything that means.

Fact is we are paid to be safe and reliable, not to push the envelope. We are paid to take the heat and stand our ground regarding decisions that might not be popular with owners or dispatchers when lives or expensive equipment is on the line. That is true professionalism.

I'm glad no one was hurt today but the bad news is we all know we aren't going to remain that lucky if things keep going this way.

 

[doh]

What happened today?

 

[exagony]

Anyone can have a bad day. We need to be aware of that fact and act humbly in response to our coworkers.

However, with another high profile incident just today by anti union pilots (remember the Phenom crew was anti union too until the IBT came to their aid) owners should start to wonder if the promises of the Red Label program equate to the safety promised. While the company is expectedly close vested about these facts, we all secretely know the rules to being an FoK equate to less professionalism not more. The crew on this airplane is notoriously everything that means.

Fact is we are paid to be safe and reliable, not to push the envelope. We are paid to take the heat and stand our ground regarding decisions that might not be popular with owners or dispatchers when lives or expensive equipment is on the line. That is true professionalism.

I'm glad no one was hurt today but the bad news is we all know we aren't going to remain that lucky if things keep going this way.

What happened today?!?

 

[doh]

452 FX off the runway in North Bend.

 

[Imissmypilot]

452 FX off the runway in North Bend.

And one must ask how much our incident to flight hour ratio has increased under Uncle. I don't know the precise numbers but it's a safe bet to say it's been significant.

And you can't blame it on the Union. Fact is Flexjet has not been run for even an hour under the MCBA or with the security of pilots feeling the muscle to protect their professional decisions. It has been 100% Ricci's way and so far these significant incidents have happened 100% to rabid anti union pilots operating in sycophantish glee to Ricci's way.

More things that make you go hmmmm...