The $10 fare is here...

[starchkr]

Hey guys come on...let's give ole bgaviator a break here...it sounds like he is trying to justify his choice to go fly for them...while he is doing a good job on himself, the rest of us know the truth.

My favorite part of all the articles and stuff on tv is the fact that EVERYTHING is going to be outsourced. In an age where our own people working for the "mother" airline cannot even please the general public, how in the HELL are a bunch of minimum wage, never graduated from high school people going to do a good enough job to keep people coming back time and again? I don't get it...plus the fact that they say all of their flights are turns, then they want to get 70 planes in a couple of years...where are they going to keep 70 airplanes in CMH every night? Oh yeah, and when the people pay for those pillows and blankets, do they get to keep them after the flight, or are they really just renting them...if they get to keep them, then that was a bad idea, because now you have everyone bringing their own onboard and you no longer sell them...but if you rent them, just think, you get to pay for all the filth and grime that everyone else gets for free . Then WOW...the pay at 65 and 30...i'm impressed!!!! Add those together and you'll get close to what i will make this year...as a second year F/O!!!

Oh well though, as someone said, we are our own greatest enemy...there is always someone willing to fly those "big planes" for whatever the pay is.

 

[bgaviator]

Hey guys come on...let's give ole bgaviator a break here...it sounds like he is trying to justify his choice to go fly for them...while he is doing a good job on himself, the rest of us know the truth.

My favorite part of all the articles and stuff on tv is the fact that EVERYTHING is going to be outsourced. In an age where our own people working for the "mother" airline cannot even please the general public, how in the HELL are a bunch of minimum wage, never graduated from high school people going to do a good enough job to keep people coming back time and again? I don't get it...plus the fact that they say all of their flights are turns, then they want to get 70 planes in a couple of years...where are they going to keep 70 airplanes in CMH every night? Oh yeah, and when the people pay for those pillows and blankets, do they get to keep them after the flight, or are they really just renting them...if they get to keep them, then that was a bad idea, because now you have everyone bringing their own onboard and you no longer sell them...but if you rent them, just think, you get to pay for all the filth and grime that everyone else gets for free . Then WOW...the pay at 65 and 30...i'm impressed!!!! Add those together and you'll get close to what i will make this year...as a second year F/O!!!

Oh well though, as someone said, we are our own greatest enemy...there is always someone willing to fly those "big planes" for whatever the pay is.

FYI, I don't fly for them. I am just an Ohio native who likes to hope for the best when a new big company plans on bringing jobs to the state. I can answer a couple of your questions though. CMH will only have a max of 8-10 planes stationed there. The other "focus cities" that will come online in the near future will be the bases for the other aircraft.
And yes, you do keep the pillows and blankets if you buy them on board...it states that on the web site.

 

[starchkr]

FYI, I don't fly for them. I am just an Ohio native who likes to hope for the best when a new big company plans on bringing jobs to the state. I can answer a couple of your questions though. CMH will only have a max of 8-10 planes stationed there. The other "focus cities" that will come online in the near future will be the bases for the other aircraft.
And yes, you do keep the pillows and blankets if you buy them on board...it states that on the web site.

Well there ya go...you get to keep the blankets and pillows...as far as it being on their website...well good for them, i for one am not going to waste my time even looking at their website...i have better things to do, like sit here and read flightinfo posts all day long...

 

[TWA]

Well, Starchkr, I was bored off my as$ today (I even got bored with FI for a while!), so I took a look at thier site. The one thing that gets me, is how do you reserve any flights that don't originate or terminate in CMH? Please note, I only tested the first part of the reservation process and didn't even click the next button.

I still would like to see how they can fit that many people in an a319. I cannot see that being at all comfortable.

I will give the sky greyhound a chance, if they start flying down to orlando this summer, mainly because i'm poor. This is only if they start flying to orlando though, because I don't see my friend driving three hours to pick my a$$ up. If it is as bad as everyone expects, I'll buy seat on SW for my trip back up. Should I bring a camera to document my experience for y'all to see on youtube?

 

[bgaviator]

Well, Starchkr, I was bored off my as$ today (I even got bored with FI for a while!), so I took a look at thier site. The one thing that gets me, is how do you reserve any flights that don't originate or terminate in CMH? Please note, I only tested the first part of the reservation process and didn't even click the next button.

I still would like to see how they can fit that many people in an a319. I cannot see that being at all comfortable.

I will give the sky greyhound a chance, if they start flying down to orlando this summer, mainly because i'm poor. This is only if they start flying to orlando though, because I don't see my friend driving three hours to pick my a$$ up. If it is as bad as everyone expects, I'll buy seat on SW for my trip back up. Should I bring a camera to document my experience for y'all to see on youtube?

you buy two seperate tickets and make your own connection....but note you will have to go pick up your bag at baggage claim, and then re-check in for your next flight.

 

[starchkr]

pick up my bag and recheck it for the next flight?!?!?! WHAT???? There's a really good idea... Not only will passengers have to go through security once, but they will have to stand going through that torture a second time. That makes four times for a round trip...Hmmmmm...yeah, brilliant idea there.

I think i saw that they were going to use the 319 with something like 156 seats in it...if that is correct, then god help them all...I feel very sorry for the poor soul who thinks he will be able to make it from CMH to the west coast without losing his sanity. We have 132 in our 319's, and it is still a bit of a squeez for the taller folks, now add 4 more rows of seats to that and take away A LOT of legroom...oh man.

 

[bgaviator]

pick up my bag and recheck it for the next flight?!?!?! WHAT???? There's a really good idea... Not only will passengers have to go through security once, but they will have to stand going through that torture a second time. That makes four times for a round trip...Hmmmmm...yeah, brilliant idea there.

I think i saw that they were going to use the 319 with something like 156 seats in it...if that is correct, then god help them all...I feel very sorry for the poor soul who thinks he will be able to make it from CMH to the west coast without losing his sanity. We have 132 in our 319's, and it is still a bit of a squeez for the taller folks, now add 4 more rows of seats to that and take away A LOT of legroom...oh man.

There is a little more leg room on the Skybus seats due to the seatback pockets being removed down below which gives you a couple of inches....the pockets are built into the seat in front up top instead of down below where they normally would be.

 

[Skippy]

bgaviator...
When do you start? I am looking to get all the info and it seems you know alot... When did you apply? How long is training? Do I wear epaulattes and a white shirt, or can I work in my current jammies? Thanks in advance..

 

[starchkr]

Ohhhh , since when did a seat back pocket take up a couple of inches...last i saw, they were maybe 1/4" thick when empty, and even with our magazine, emergency card and sick sack, they only expand to maybe 1/2". How they plan on saving "a couple of inches" per seat by not having them is a mystery to me...probably everyone else out there as well. So i guess since they are going to be top mounted, they will have no IFE on their a/c...kinda the wrong way to go since everyone is coming out with more IFE options these days...plus they could charge for it to make more money...oh well, i guess having the f/a's peddling goods will be enough, or so they think. I'm also surprised they havn't thought of putting a pay for play system on their bathrooms..."drop in a quarter and we will give you 2 minutes in the lav, drop in 4 quarters and we will give you time for your morning dump."

 

[TWA]

How they plan on saving "a couple of inches" per seat by not having them is a mystery to me...probably everyone else out there as well.

They will be saving a couple of inches...throughout the entire aircraft. No one said per seat

 

[starchkr]

OK, so a couple inches for the entire airplane...here's my math then. I'll give them saving 1" per row, which gives them another 22" to work with(based on our usage of 22 rows). Now that gives them the depth of 1 row of seats with about 6 inches of legroom added. Now lets assume you need that 16" per row for seats plus another 12" per row for legroom(yeah, that's pretty small), that means they need to squeez another 92" out of their airplanes, or 8 feet almost...now that already gives them the variance for the extra row of seats because of the missing seat back pockets...so where is this going to come from?

 

[skiandsurf]

OK, so a couple inches for the entire airplane...here's my math then. I'll give them saving 1" per row, which gives them another 22" to work with(based on our usage of 22 rows). Now that gives them the depth of 1 row of seats with about 6 inches of legroom added. Now lets assume you need that 16" per row for seats plus another 12" per row for legroom(yeah, that's pretty small), that means they need to squeez another 92" out of their airplanes, or 8 feet almost...now that already gives them the variance for the extra row of seats because of the missing seat back pockets...so where is this going to come from?

No AFT lavs or Galley. Only the one Lav up front. All of the catering items will go in the overhead bins.....less room for carry-ons and more checked bags, at $5/bag.

 

[skypine69]

no lavs. people buy bags to crap in. and then carry them off the plane. unless they pay extra and then they can give the bag to the fas.

 

[Shrek]

Go get im starchkr - this thread is gettin GOOD

 

[TWA]

no lavs. people buy bags to crap in. and then carry them off the plane. unless they pay extra and then they can give the bag to the fas.

And God forbid if you bring your own bag! By following the celebrities in their efforts to combat global warming, you will receive one square of TP in your purchased crap bag.