Terror warning, keep your eyes out...

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Don't know if this is something that maybe new or not.

From FNT to ATL today. FA calls up and tells us that "I’ve had about 4 passengers come up to me and tell me that there is a man of Middle-Eastern descent who seems to be chanting something and the passengers are feeling uneasy” I told her to just keep an eye on him and make sure that she had someone in mind back there incase something went down and to keep us posted. She finished her service and called us back telling us that another person came up and told her that he was using a cell phone. (This is at FL290) She then told us that she told him to turn it off and he asked her how she knew he had a cell phone on. He refused to turn it off initially and got up and went to the lav. She said he was in there for like 10 min. This was a little too much for us, so we diverted and had the authorities meet us.

He was pulled off the airplane, we deplaned and searched the aircraft. We found nothing.

The suspect had no checked baggage and only one small carry on that was a duffle bag that the cops said had very little in it. This guy had this little bag and was going from FNT to DFW via ATL.

When the police took him off the airplane he never made eye contact with them and did not even question why he was being taken off.

When we finally get back to ATL the FA tells us that on of the passengers told her some more of the story. Turns out that when she told him to turn the cell phone off and he finally did, he turned it back on as soon as she was back at the front. Needless to say the passengers were more than happy with the diversion.



So I say all that to say that we think this may have been a surveillance type mission. Perhaps to see at what altitude a cell phone will work, or even how far they can push a crew before they react. Or something. Keep your eyes out. Who knows what may be next.
 

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Kinda sounds like a dry run. That's wierd that he didn't question being pulled off
 

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musta been a satellite phone.

PROFILING NEEDS TO BEGIN NOW, all terrorist acts in the last 20 years have been committed by young arab males, how much more destruction is it going to take????
 

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Nuke 'em all! :mad:
 

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low-key said:
musta been a satellite phone.

PROFILING NEEDS TO BEGIN NOW, all terrorist acts in the last 20 years have been committed by young arab males, how much more destruction is it going to take????
Agreed... I couldn't have said it better myself. Whats amazing is that we still let plenty of Arab males in the country in the first place. We haven't learned a thing.
 

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Agreed... I couldn't have said it better myself. Whats amazing is that we still let plenty of Arab males in the country in the first place. We haven't learned a thing.
Damn Liberals, It's all Hillary's Fault!!!
 

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PROFILING NEEDS TO BEGIN NOW, all terrorist acts in the last 20 years have been committed by young arab males, how much more destruction is it going to take????
What about Tim McVey???
 

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low-key said:
musta been a satellite phone.

PROFILING NEEDS TO BEGIN NOW, all terrorist acts in the last 20 years have been committed by young arab males, how much more destruction is it going to take????
Nah, we still need some more convincing. Keep searching the old ladies, and little kids. I applaud you TSA.
 

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flying4food said:
What about Tim McVey???
Excellent point. You have to admit though, if you play the odds terrorism of arab origin is the primary threat.
 

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flying4food said:
dang Liberals, It's all Hillary's Fault!!!
More like, dang conservatives, it's all Bush's fault for taking the focus off the terrorists in the first place!
 

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Its actually Norm Minetta's fault. Secretary of Transportation. A Bush appointee. He's a Jap. He felt that the Jap Americans had a bad break during WWII so he didn't want any profiling. I don't like Hillary either, but don't blame everything that goes wrong on democrats. Usually when something gets "F" ed up, its usually a republican.
 
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I'm interested in the source on this one. Is this legit? Or another internet hoax?
p.s. the bigotry on this board is disgusting. A Jap?!! Are you kidding me? hey, the 1950's called, they want their sense of racial superiority back. Ass. As for the terrorism thing, there aren't a whole lot of arabs in the IRA.
 
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flying4food said:
What about Tim McVey???
Big difference. Tim McVey wasn't a suicide bomber. If they are on the plane, and they are planning on using the aircraft as a weapon of terror, they must be suicide attackers. Suicide attackers are predominantly Muslim extremists.

Most serial killers are white males. If police use profiling in the case of white male serial killer suspects is that racist or good police work? PC has no place in national security!
 

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There is intelligence on a cell phone threat, check your companies "twelve five" advisories.


Your story did draw my mind directly to that advisory, sounds like a dry run, watch yourselves out there.
 

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Bluto said:
I'm interested in the source on this one. Is this legit? Or another internet hoax?
p.s. the bigotry on this board is disgusting. A Jap?!! Are you kidding me? hey, the 1950's called, they want their sense of racial superiority back. Ass. As for the terrorism thing, there aren't a whole lot of arabs in the IRA.
Using common sense instead of political correctness in national defense and airport security does not equal bigotry.
 

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Oh and by the way.......anybody against profiling young middle eastern men ages 18 to 35 is an idiot!!!!!

Open your eyes people, check your world events from the last 20 years.
 

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JoeMerchant said:
Using common sense instead of political correctness in national defense and airport security does not equal bigotry.
I agree, but using the word 'Jap' to describe an individual does. Additionally, I think it's foolish to focus only on people that look a certain way. How many white/non-arab looking terrorist sympathizers are there out there? Giving a pass to white folks, women, kids, etc. is not in the best interest of security. The TSA hasn't dropped the ball in this aspect, for once they are acting proactively instead of reactively. I don't have a problem with profiling when it's done correctly. When it's done badly though, I think it reflects the absolute worst aspects of humanity. The very aspects terrorists embody: namely, the belief that because a person is different, they are worth less. It's an extremely small-minded view and I'd expect better from aviation professionals, though I know better.

I'm interested in a source because this reminds me of the story about a year ago with middle-eastern men onboard a flight that were 'clearly performing some kind of dry-run terrorist activity' all the while 'claiming' to be musicians. Well, it turns out they were musicians, not terrorists. Alarmist thinking without a solid source can distract us from actual threats.
 
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Bluto,

Go get your guitar, sit around a campfire and sing Michael rowed a boat ashore or something.
 
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Yeah Bluto!!! Go Sing A Song Chill Out......my Grandfather Still Calls Them Japs And He Would Kick Your A$$
Profile All Middle Eastern Males That Have Not Been In This Country For Longer Than 20 Years!!!
 

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Bluto said:
I'm interested in a source because this reminds me of the story about a year ago with middle-eastern men onboard a flight that were 'clearly performing some kind of dry-run terrorist activity' all the while 'claiming' to be musicians. Well, it turns out they were musicians, not terrorists. Alarmist thinking without a solid source can distract us from actual threats.
In a source as in where it came from? It came from MY flight! You won't read about it in any papers or anything. I don't know how it was documented, but it was on MY flight. I didn't tell this story to start a race war. I told it so that people will be on the look out for things like I saw today. This sh1t was real man. You think we felt good about hearing that a middle eastern dude was acting sketchy and was trying to use a cell phone on and airplane? After the stuff that went down in England and the use of cell phones we were taking no chances.
 
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