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So then why did you refer to him as a "typical union goon"? I'm pretty sure TSA145 hasn't busted any knees, had anybody whacked, or orchestrated any sickouts at Christmas.h25b said:Actually your reaction is wrong.
I would agree with you here, but that street runs both ways. However it goes, people need to remain professional.I just think you'd all be doing yourself a favor by toning it down a notch.
The problem with this statement is at most airlines the pilot group (and employees in general) is viewed as a liability and not an asset. In your corporate job (and darn near every 91 operation I am aware of), the pilots are viewed as an important business asset. If you called your boss an a**hole, you'd probably be on the street...but if you called a fellow pilot an ass and your boss found out, he'd probably tell you to grow up, be a man, and work out your differences. TSA management isn't quite as accomodating.Would I terminate an employee that was a real pain in the arse and turning the workplace in to a battleground ? You bet. And I'd guess that's where TSA management is going with this. But that's how it works in my world. You guys have your way of doing things, we have ours. If that's how you'd like to do business plan on staying with the airlines.
If calling somebody an a**hole is grounds for firing (and is the only offensive thing they've done), you, me and every other pilot would be out of a job permanently. If you can honestly say you've never called a coworker, a supervisor, an associate or somebody you've run into on the road in this profession an a**hole, then you are much better than I and 99% of everybody else. Even though such namecalling is childish and somewhat unprofessional, that is among the many reasons Pro Standards exists (especially at ALPA carriers). When pilots lose their jobs because other pilots start tattling to management about petty crap such as this (and yes, 7th grade namecalling is petty), the situation has gotten absurd.
When did we start talking about a jumpseat war again? The jumpseat thing is a beaten horse, and I agree with you about it; I was under the distinct impression we were talking about somebody being suspended pending termination because a fellow line pilot tattled to management that he had called a GJ pilot in back an a**hole.I can't figure out how you guys can't see that what you are doing will get you nowhere. Yes, denying a jumpseat may yield a certain personal satisfaction but it obviously may get you shown the door and will take your cause nowhere.
As I said before, I agree with you regarding the flamebaiting nature of this thread and how absurd it was to accept a ride and then make accusations on the internet. I bet he even smiled and said please and thanks when accepting the JS, too....As far as I can tell, we have a super hypocrite starting a thread that: (1) made up this entire BS story, (2) doesn't mind putting himself in to a supposed unsafe environment, & (3) doesn't mind putting his personal diifferences aside for a free ride home... NICE...
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