Tale from Go Jet jumpseat!

[ACT700]

I've never understood people who can't comprehend the idea of jumpseating on an airline they don't like. Say you are commuting to and from Chicago for 5 years. Every day you've flown on an Air Wisconsin flight because that is who United has contracted with to fly that route. Then all of a sudden, United cancels the contract and sells it to GJ's. You still need to get home and to work every week. Are you really suggesting that these guys avoid jumpseating on GJ's just because they don't like them. The way I see it, they'd only be hurting themselves and their families. How does GJ's or any other airline profit financially from carrying jumpseaters? What financial (or otherwise) punishement is it to GJ's if we all stop jumpseating on them? This is probably the dumbest argument I've ever heard (the one about jumpseating on GJ's) You do what you've got to do to get to work and get home. It's not the same as going to work for them!

No, I suggest that people quit whining and badmouthing each other ('s airlines).
The way I see it, all regional airlines are in the same position. They all pay sub-par wages, for F/Os at least, and you guys crying about GJ being worse than Mesaba, or Mesa, or whatever regional airline name you'd like to fill in, isn't solving the problem at all.

So-quit setting a double standard.
Because I'm pretty sure the guys working at GJ, for whatever reason that maybe, needs to make a living, too-just like the guys trying to jumpseat home needs to do it for financial reasons.

I for one, think that if ALPA would have fought to bring mainline and regional pilots together, would have been a step in the right direction.
Instead, ALPA did management a favour by pitting the two pilot groups against each other.

 

[millhouse21]

To the GoJ*t pilots (holier than thou), quick to pass blame to TSA pilots...Let me remid you...
"He who is without sin, throw the first stone...." ~Jesus Christ

Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

So I cast that MFer!!

 

[Capn Lucky]

No worries mate, if I'm not scared, you shouldnt be either!

SKIPPY

I'm not scared. I'd like to be a step ahead of Dr. Evil and his henchmen at the STC. Their worst case scenario is for us to join with the alter ego pilots and negotiate together. They are betting on ill will protecting them. I say that this is business and we do what is necessary to protect out interests, even if its a bitter pill to swallow.

 

[panamclipper]

http://www.threemeninkilts.com/index.cfm

 

[Snoop]

Dear ACT

Life isn't always as simple as your "getting along" mentality.

 

[rod guhzhinya]

Go Shi## gives Mesa someone to talk shi## about!!

 

[FlyHIToo]

flyHItoo: Your links are in no way backing up what you said.

The first link is telling about all the companies that they are trying to get on board. This is months and months old. besides, the ones they are actually negotiating for have links to other pages. The g0 jet name isn't a link, so it doesn't seem they have done anything for months and months.

If the NMB actually rules that these are two seperate companies, it will be a crime.....

And do you actually have a link to the NMB website or is it all crap from the teamsters website, which has nothing from DEC 21ST 2005.

Don't try to defend your actions and your lies.

I hate to bring up this thread up again.....

But.... I hate being called a liar also. Read it for your self. This is from the NMB. Go Jet and TSA, and TSAHoldings are no different than DAL, ComAIR, and DALHoldings, or no different from AAL, AE and AMR.

TWO airlines ONE parent.

In the real world Holding companies own many smaller companies, that is just the way it is.

Here is the link:

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2006/33n009.pdf

 

[flyer172r]

Too bad they couldn't include how when a GJ plane broke down a couple weeks ago a TSA plane was put on their routes. I still can't get over seeing websites used as evidence in a court case, weird. Oh well, it wasn't a perfect solution and it'll likely get resolved in the upcoming contract negotiations. Unfortunately that means our next contract is going to be awful, so nobody get your hopes up for a bar-raising contract. GJ hasn't hurt TSA too badly yet, but they will soon, mark my words.

 

[Axel]

... They [management] are betting on ill will protecting them...

This statement has spot-on nailed what is probably the biggest obstacle to progress for the regional pilots.