Takeoff Mins/Pinnacle Ops Specs

[DoinTime]

You can't ignore it just because you have substandard charts with incomplete information.

Yes we can. As long as our charts are approved by the FAA we can use them for everything contained therein legally. That is FACT.

Are you suggesting that we are bound by information contained in charts that we are not approved to use? Surely, you must be smarter than that. We use the charts we are provided and we have no way of knowing what everyone else's charts say. If you want to point a finger at someone for the charts we use point it at the company or the FAA for approving them. The crew is not to blame.

 

[SSDD]

That's pretty scary. To ignore information that is readily available. I'll say it again, if the tower issued an RVR report for that runway, then you can't ignore it.

BTW, what do you Ops Specs say about taking off when the reported RVR is 1000 ft?

 

[RJLoser]

Sec. 121.651 - Takeoff and landing weather minimums: IFR: All certificate holders.
Link to an amendment published at 69 FR 1641, Jan. 9, 2004.
(a) Notwithstanding any clearance from ATC, no pilot may begin a takeoff in an airplane under IFR when the weather conditions reported by the U.S. National Weather Service, a source approved by that Service, or a source approved by the Administrator, are less than those specified in --

(1) The certificate holder's operations specifications; or
(2) Parts 91 and 97 of this chapter, if the certificate holder's operations specifications do not specify takeoff minimums for the airport.

Jepps and LIDOs are not controlling

 

[SSDD]

Or another way, what do your Ops Specs say about the relevance of RVR reports when conducting lower than standard takeoffs?

 

[RJLoser]

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[jehtplane]

Jepps are NOT controlling, if you have C056 AND C078, and the airfield is so equipped...

Jepps are controlling. Your op specs give you authorization to use lower than standard takeoff minimums, but you still CANNOT go lower than published. Kinda scary that some of you guys think you can....

 

[jetracer5]

Sec. 121.651 - Takeoff and landing weather minimums: IFR: All certificate holders.
Link to an amendment published at 69 FR 1641, Jan. 9, 2004.
(a) Notwithstanding any clearance from ATC, no pilot may begin a takeoff in an airplane under IFR when the weather conditions reported by the U.S. National Weather Service, a source approved by that Service, or a source approved by the Administrator, are less than those specified in --

(1) The certificate holder's operations specifications; or
(2) Parts 91 and 97 of this chapter, if the certificate holder's operations specifications do not specify takeoff minimums for the airport.

Jepps and LIDOs are not controlling

Yea if i was FLYING A CESSNA! We dont operate Part 91 but aparently PNCL does

 

[RJLoser]

Yea if i was FLYING A CESSNA! We dont operate Part 91 but aparently PNCL does

That is a 121 reg. Look a little closer.

 

[Crizz]

You suppose they had a takeoff alternate?

 

[propsarebest]

umm, no they are not...
your ops specs are, weather they say you use published takeoff mins or you can use less than standard takeoff mins...


See C056.

Jepps are controlling. Your op specs give you authorization to use lower than standard takeoff minimums, but you still CANNOT go lower than published. Kinda scary that some of you guys think you can....