SWAPA might like SWA proposal

[DonVerita]

Out of curiosity what is your definition of a "crappy SLI." Operating 2 certificates would be my definition.

Then your definition is not grounded in reality. GK wants ONE airline, and has said that over and over. What lunch break have you been on?

FI is not the place to discuss the SLI. That too has been told to us by our union. ATN MC speaks for me.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

GK wants ONE airline, and has said that over and over.

GK does want one airline. Whether the AirTran pilots are apart of that are not remains to be seen. Some of us seem to understand that, others don't.

Got BATNA?

 

[redflyer65]

Got BATNA?

We'll see for sure. Be interesting if this is a one time offer when the details are revealed. Could be a one and done, hard to tell.

 

[Flycatcher99]

We'll see for sure. Be interesting if this is a one time offer when the details are revealed. Could be a one and done, hard to tell.

Perhaps some have gotten the message. Certain verbose ones have completely stopped their incessant banter.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Then your definition is not grounded in reality. GK wants ONE airline, and has said that over and over. What lunch break have you been on?

FI is not the place to discuss the SLI. That too has been told to us by our union. ATN MC speaks for me.

We'll see for sure. Be interesting if this is a one time offer when the details are revealed. Could be a one and done, hard to tell.

Would "one and done" follow the process agreement?

 

[frqntflyr]

Would "one and done" follow the process agreement?

Yes. SWA is under no obligation to negotiate with the two unions. They have made an offer. There is no guarantee they make any more offers in the process.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Yes. SWA is under no obligation to negotiate with the two unions. They have made an offer. There is no guarantee they make any more offers in the process.

So we would then just continue on with the agreed to process right?

 

[frqntflyr]

So we would then just continue on with the agreed to process right?

Yes. One and done from the company is a possibility, in fact, more likely a probability. Otherwise onward with the process and continued uncertainty on both sides.

 

[shootr]

deleted...for now

 

[redflyer65]

Yes. One and done from the company is a possibility, in fact, more likely a probability. Otherwise onward with the process and continued uncertainty on both sides.

Exactly.

 

[DonVerita]

Yes. One and done from the company is a possibility, in fact, more likely a probability. Otherwise onward with the process and continued uncertainty on both sides.

Agreed. If this is in fact a "one and done" offer by GK, -and- it is not accepted by both unions, then we simply move on to arbitration. That is set forth in the Process Agreement that both sides signed onto and there is a finite date that said arbitration must commence by.

I hope GK sweetened the pot for both sides. I'd like to see an agreement made between the two MC's that goes back to the heart of the negotiations - Fair & Equitable. But...if that is not to be, then I am ready to go to arbitration.

We MUST have a harmonious combined pilot group. Do we really want to see a repeat of Reno Air/American Airlines from years past, or more recently, the toxic atmosphere between USA/AWA? I don't think anyone wants that.

Let's see what official information comes out from the two MC's over the next few days. It does none of us any good to speculate or grandstand.

DV

 

[GuppyWN]

Don (why waste time with direct negotiations or mediation) Vireta

Mind if I just call you spring loaded?

Gup

 

[XRMEFLYER]

Perhaps some have gotten the message. Certain verbose ones have completely stopped their incessant banter.

And some others just can't seem to help themselves.

 

[ASADFW7]

The meetings are adjourned for the night. I respect that many of the people in the know are letting the groups work this out without leaks.

 

[DonVerita]

Not spring-loaded Gup; just ready to go that route if need be, although hoping we don't have to.

I'll revisit the relevent sentence on that from my last post:

"I'd like to see an agreement made between the two MC's that goes back to the heart of the negotiations - Fair & Equitable. But...if that is not to be, then I am ready to go to arbitration."