SWAPA has a transition agreement

[SWA/FO]

On your six - meth head? Are u on drugs?

 

[carl p]

I guess anybody that makes sense cannot be an AT pilot. All I said was the facts. It might not be what you want to hear but you are free to explain where I am wrong. There are pilots at AT that can make sense. However, it takes a strong person to stand up to the loud mouths. Maybe you are a follower and not a leader. That is ok though. We need followers just like we need leaders.

My union has asked it's pilots not to discuss merger issues on anonymous message boards, and I'll respect that. If you wish to speak to the AT pilots as you claim, do it on our message board...

Respectfully,

C

 

[boeing717]

Doesn't matter. Southwest will be paying you, not SWAPA. Do you think they would rather you be on a B scale? They might, but what kind of unity or "culture" would that create? A bad one. GK and investment bankers thought you would be a good fit with SWA, and they will have to pay up to make everything work, and create a stronger airline overall. You will be paid by SWA, NOT SWAPA. And, they may get a small raise out of this too, which they might not have gotten without the merger. Tell them YOU'RE WELCOME.


OYS

If they get a small raise out of this then I guess we will get the same raise. Great. We not only get the big raise by taking their contract but then they will get another raise. This is gettting better as we speak. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. And this is from an outsider. Thanks again.

 

[StopNTSing]

You have to ask those SWA guys what they are losing do to this other than perceived upgrades? Answer: NOTHING.

Real answer: Seniority....potentially a lot of it. Why is this so hard for some to understand?

P.S. Upgrades are not nothing, either...unless of course you have no skin in this game like the entire Delta peanut gallery.

 

[FIREMAN]

You mean for example the 2 737s we just lost to them?

AAI has not lost any aircraft to SWA. There was a slot swap so that we would not take two aircraft in AAI config and livery just to change it to SWA in a year or less. IF the deal falls through AAI would get those aircraft later in the year.

 

[GuppyWN]

Doesn't matter. Southwest will be paying you, not SWAPA.

Via the contract that SWAPA negotiated for its' membership - and I hope sooner rather than later for my future Airtran family.

Relax fellas. Let the unions do their jobs and let us worry about finding a cool dive bar on the overnight.

Gup

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

I like dive bars, I'm in!!

 

[FIREMAN]

JAX The 747 Lounge

IND Wisky River

LGA Joeys

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Doesn't matter. Southwest will be paying you, not SWAPA. Do you think they would rather you be on a B scale? They might, but what kind of unity or "culture" would that create? A bad one. GK and investment bankers thought you would be a good fit with SWA, and they will have to pay up to make everything work, and create a stronger airline overall. You will be paid by SWA, NOT SWAPA. And, they may get a small raise out of this too, which they might not have gotten without the merger. Tell them YOU'RE WELCOME.


OYS

SWAPA negotiated the contract that SWA will be paying you under.

SWA pilots paid for the negotiations for said contract.

 

[tankerhead]

Did you attend the same college as 'flyinvixen' ?

Agread...Way to paynful too reed. I gues hee spent mor thyme on his SWA app sence hee got teh Job.

 

[On Your Six]

Real answer: Seniority....potentially a lot of it. Why is this so hard for some to understand?

P.S. Upgrades are not nothing, either...unless of course you have no skin in this game like the entire Delta peanut gallery.

Hi, this is a merger. There won't be a staple. So, add 1+1, and someone will lose some seniority. Is this really hard to understand? Do you personally think there should be a full staple? If not, you will have to accept some loss of seniority. Also, if it gets to the arbitration phase, most likely it won't be a staple, and they will look at the facts and give a fair verdict. That is what scares a lot of people here, a fair verdict.


OYS

 

[On Your Six]

SWAPA negotiated the contract that SWA will be paying you under.

SWA pilots paid for the negotiations for said contract.

Great, the union negotiated. That is their job. Not one extra dime will come out of the SWA pilots' pockets. And let's get real here, the UAL guys started this ball rolling with high pay first, then went to Delta, and then SWA piggybacked. How do I know? I was there, at United, before I was furloughed there after 9-11. So, UAL and DL pilots paid for it prior to SWAPA.


OYS

 

[GuppyWN]

And let's get real here, the UAL guys started this ball rolling with high pay first, then went to Delta, and then SWA piggybacked. How do I know? I was there, at United, before I was furloughed there after 9-11. So, UAL and DL pilots paid for it prior to SWAPA.


OYS

I smell a thread hijack! I think it's awesome that our Tranny bro's will get our contract.

Even more so that you won't.

Gup

 

[jonjuan]

JAX The 747 Lounge

IND Wisky River

LGA Joeys

SAN Blue Oyster. Guppy, they just love guys under 5' 7" in leather jackets. You'll fit right in.

 

[On Your Six]

Via the contract that SWAPA negotiated for its' membership - and I hope sooner rather than later for my future Airtran family.

Relax fellas. Let the unions do their jobs and let us worry about finding a cool dive bar on the overnight.

Gup

Via the UAL and then DL contracts. It is called piggybacking. I don't think that took too much effort from SWAPA negotiators.

At the same time, I do hope you raise the bar in your current negotiations, because my new employer's pilot union would like to piggyback off you guys this time, returning the initial favor. Keep it going up guys, just don't forget your AT brothers are right next to you, so don't box them out.


OYS

 

[GuppyWN]

SAN Blue Oyster. Guppy, they just love guys under 5' 7" in leather jackets. You'll fit right in.

Yeah but I fit right in a the "Top Gun" bar in SAN. I get to shoot my watch and tell stories at the same time!

Gup

 

[On Your Six]

I smell a thread hijack! I think it's awesome that our Tranny bro's will get our contract.

Even more so that you won't.

Gup

Oh, I think I will eventually, and for a better airline. No thread creep, just something called a second chance for me. We're next, and if I were you I would prepare yourself for an SLI letdown followed by stagnation due to lack of scheduled retirements. BTW, does GK sound worried to you in those USAToday articles?


OYS

 

[GuppyWN]

Oh, I think I will eventually, and for a better airline. No thread creep, just something called a second chance for me. We're next, and if I were you I would prepare yourself for an SLI letdown followed by stagnation due to lack of scheduled retirements. BTW, does GK sound worried to you in those USAToday articles?


OYS

No. Gary sounds like Gary. If you knew him, which you don't, you'd understand exactly what he is saying. He's cementing the deal with the DOJ.

Hey Tranny bro's? Did you hear that? OYS says "our" airline sucks. You gonna let him get away with that?

I've had a second chance too. It started the moment I realized I couldn't control the SLI and that Airtran pilots were just a bunch of guys who happened to be in the right spot at the right time. In the end WN will live long and prosper but in the short term I have no doubt someone from BOTH airlines will be disappointed with the SLI. I choose for that to not be me.

Gup

 

[On Your Six]

No. Gary sounds like Gary. If you knew him, which you don't, you'd understand exactly what he is saying. He's cementing the deal with the DOJ.

Hey Tranny bro's? Did you hear that? OYS says "our" airline sucks. You gonna let him get away with that?

I've had a second chance too. It started the moment I realized I couldn't control the SLI and that Airtran pilots were just a bunch of guys who happened to be in the right spot at the right time. In the end WN will live long and prosper but in the short term I have no doubt someone from BOTH airlines will be disappointed with the SLI. I choose for that to not be me.

Gup

GUP now works for FOX NEWS....... Where again did I say your airline sux? Never did. I said my new airline is better, and that is my opinion. You can have your's too, but I love how you NOW try to rally support from Airtran guys, after slamming them for so long until you were told to keep quiet by your own union, after they saw your and other ridiculous posts. You are really losing it, mentally and seniority wise upcoming. I do think it is great that you have had a change of heart when if comes to slamming your future bros. Maybe there is hope for you, after you take your meds.


OYS

 

[canyonblue]

Via the UAL and then DL contracts. It is called piggybacking. I don't think that took too much effort from SWAPA negotiators.

At the same time, I do hope you raise the bar in your current negotiations, because my new employer's pilot union would like to piggyback off you guys this time, returning the initial favor.

Piggyback my a$$, did UAL or DAL keep those rates? It only works if you can piggyback off someone who could hold the payscale, UAL and DAL didn't do sh#t as far as that goes. You must be a friggin kernel with that logic.uke: