SWAPA "AIP reached with Company"

[Uncle Bunkle]

Now SWA Bubba can order hot dogs for the whole crew.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

I don't know what's in it, nor do I care. Given the opportunity I'm voting NO

That makes sense. If you're a six year old.

 

[PCL_128]

This isn't a seniority list integration. Big, big difference.

Yes, it is different. We actually had leverage. You don't.

 

[Nindiri]

We have so little leverage that GK and company aren't even trying to hide what they're doing.

They're openly walking all over our section 1 protection right now. We can vote yes on this AIP and get a few crumbs in return while we watch our flying go away.

Or we can vote it down, replace some people, and spend another year or two reorganizing and catching up before we even have another AIP to consider. And the company will continue shredding section 1 the whole time.

GK wins either way.

Meanwhile, guys are fighting over how big a share of the signing bonus they will personally get if they pass this fiasco of a TA.

 

[PCL_128]

What sort of scope violations are they engaging in?

 

[HowardBorden]

They're openly walking all over our section 1 protection right now.

Nobody has walked all over section 1, YET. Not one distressed passenger has been re-booked on JetBlue. The company agreed to cease and desist after the union approached them and told them this was a scope violation. They will be meeting to discuss it soon. My prediction is no SWA passengers will ever be re-booked on JB. Section one is very clear on this, no domestic codeshare, period. We will win this battle hands down with an arbitrator.


CODESHARING
1. General
Flying pursuant to a Codeshare and/or Marketing Agreement is only permitted so long as the requirements of this Agreement are satisfied.

Domestic Codeshare
Southwest Airlines will not enter into a domestic Codeshare Agreement within the fifty (50) United States without the agreement of the Association.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Nobody has walked all over section 1, YET. Not one distressed passenger has been re-booked on JetBlue. The company agreed to cease and desist after the union approached them and told them this was a scope violation. They will be meeting to discuss it soon. My prediction is no SWA passengers will ever be re-booked on JB. Section one is very clear on this, no domestic codeshare, period. We will win this battle hands down with an arbitrator.

Don't bother with the truth, Howard--these guys don't want to hear it. They're so interested in bitching and moaning, and declaring their unqualified opposition to the AIP--without even seeing the damn thing--that they can't be bothered with such trivial things, as what's really happening.

Bubba

 

[Kermit_D_Frog]

Yes, it is different. We actually had leverage. You don't.

Leverage... is that how you get a "house" off its wheels when you deliver it to the trailer park?

 

[twepilot]

We have so little leverage that GK and company aren't even trying to hide what they're doing.

They're openly walking all over our section 1 protection right now. We can vote yes on this AIP and get a few crumbs in return while we watch our flying go away.

Or we can vote it down, replace some people, and spend another year or two reorganizing and catching up before we even have another AIP to consider. And the company will continue shredding section 1 the whole time.

GK wins either way.

Meanwhile, guys are fighting over how big a share of the signing bonus they will personally get if they pass this fiasco of a TA.

Man, I thought ATN ALPO was effd up...This takes the cake....And I just got a dark tie...WTF

RV

 

[hoover84]

Jetblue would keep all the revenue on a rebooked customer.... No revenue split unless they have a codeshare agreement.

 

[Kharma Police]

I don't know what's in it, nor do I care. Given the opportunity I'm voting NO

That sounds like Brian Fellow from SNL. Why don't you read it first before you decide?

 

[Capn Butthead]

I've been doing it for a long time now...no single engine Taxi in or out. Went back to the gate last trip. Should be no open time but there are some greedy people out there...usually the same ones whining about no contract have 160tfp

 

[SWA Bubba]

That sounds like Brian Fellow from SNL. Why don't you read it first before you decide?

He doesn't need to read it--he "knows" that any deal would be bad. He's the same guy who was insisting that Southwest was going to be "furloughing pilots imminently," for the last several years. Too bad he didn't take me up on the $1,000 bet I offered him concerning that.

Bubba

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Which is funny because last year when I met Bubba in DAL he wouldn't even buy me a hot dog. (But he did have mustard on his tie).

 

[Just thinking]

another tragic example of disconnected group of pilots pretending to be leaders