SWA or Alaska?

[Going2Baja]

I've never seen a hotel room as nice as my own house. I'll pay for my vacations, thank you.

BTW, on pace to make >72k in my 1st year living in domicile. ???'s

VERY good point.....

 

[737ski]

Don't get me wrong, it is two different jobs--commuting & living in domicile... With any airline...

 

[SWA/FO]

As for pay....Well all I can say is we'll see. SWA was the bottom paid 737 company pre 9/11 and now that everyone else has taken pay cuts they look pretty good.

Lets get it right, our pay came up too...

 

[MINIME]

Lets get it right, our pay came up too...

Agreed,

And let's not forget that for the equipment that LUV flies, they are still the highest paid and probably would be regardless of paycuts at the Legacies. LUV does not have heavies so you have to consider that as well. Heavy speculation on my part of course.:nuts:

 

[Mea25000]

Wrong… Southwest new contract just has just barely kept up with the cost of living. At best they have right now a three percent raise compaired to there last contract if you factor in inflation. Six years ago Us Airways, United, Delta all were paid back then about 10% more then Southwest is making right now. Four years ago Alaska contract was about 5% above where Southwest’s contract is now The rest of us just suck and Southwest keeps working for the same rate.

Alaska 04 This was middle of the road when it was signed

CA FO

1 184 52
2 185 92
3 186 112
4 188 118
5 189 121
6 190 125
7 191 128
8 192 131
9 194 134
10 195 137
11 196 138
12 197 139

 

[noperf]

At least LUV kept up with inflation.

ALK 12 year Captain rate today is the equivalent of ALK 12 year Captain pay in 1993.

Also, as I recall, the LUV pilots defferred pay raises in 1995 in lieu of stock options.

And of course no Captain at Alaska has, after twelvth year, recieved a pay raise.

 

[thardy]

I like to wear dresses.

 

[noperf]

one thing at a time, one thing at a time

 

[MINIME]

I like to wear dresses.

Good,

Hopefully one less person I have to compete with for the SENORITAS.

 

[thardy]

Sorry MINIPENIS, I like women too.

 

[igneousy2]

Agreed,

And let's not forget that for the equipment that LUV flies, they are still the highest paid and probably would be regardless of paycuts at the Legacies. LUV does not have heavies so you have to consider that as well. Heavy speculation on my part of course.:nuts:

What are you talking about? SWA was never at the top of the pack until 9/11. It was always okay but never anything to write home about. Of course you have to consider the heavies - it's about potential career earnings. Would you fly at a company just because they have the highest paid Cessna 172 drivers around?

Another thing to consider is retirement - Alaska still has a well funded A-fund. The company is trying to get rid of it but with other carriers while in bankruptcy getting 12%+ DC in return I would expect that if it didn't stay in place all together it would be a very high DC. I personally would rather have a 18-20% DC then the current A fund.

If I lived in an AS domicile I would choose AS hands down over SWA and never look back, if it meant a commute for either I would probably choose SWA but it wouldn't be as easy a decision as others make it seem to be.

Don't get too hung up on the pay difference - I think that AS is at the bottom going to move up where SWA is either going to stay somewhat stagnant or even regress a little. There business plan does not allow them to have the most expensive anything for long.

If you are like me (early 30's) you will be able to progress nicely through your career as the majority of pilots were hired here in their early-mid 30's so there won't be a hideous number younger and senior to you. At SWA, unless you are in your mid 20's there will be a LOT of guys younger and senior to you. At AS I am guranteed to end my career in the top 50, at SWA I would be lucky to finish in the top 300.

Good luck

 

[Skyboy722]

If you are like me (early 30's) you will be able to progress nicely through your career as the majority of pilots were hired here in their early-mid 30's so there won't be a hideous number younger and senior to you. At SWA, unless you are in your mid 20's there will be a LOT of guys younger and senior to you. At AS I am guranteed to end my career in the top 50, at SWA I would be lucky to finish in the top 300.

Good luck

You SURE about that? Also, consider percentages, not #'s. Probably pretty close. SWA average Newhire age = 39.

 

[ivauir]

Does Alaska Air go to Lubbock? If it does NOT, then go to Alaska. (You know I know it doesn't go there. Ah yeah) Seriously, LBB is a sorry town. Fly for Alaska and go see Sitka, AK. It is much prettier and the girls (or girl up there) are cuter.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Yawn .... get a new gig.

 

[poor2thecore]

You SURE about that? Also, consider percentages, not #'s. Probably pretty close. SWA average Newhire age = 39.

I'd imagine the military types bump that number up. If it was purely civilian it'd probably be lower? Just a guess...?

 

[LeonPhelps]

Does Alaska Air go to Lubbock? If it does NOT, then go to Alaska. (You know I know it doesn't go there. Ah yeah) Seriously, LBB is a sorry town. Fly for Alaska and go see Sitka, AK. It is much prettier and the girls (or girl up there) are cuter.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Au contrair bonjur! No one knows ladies, like Leon Phelpsth, and let me tell you General...the ladiesth in Lubbock are hotter than a Delta customer stranded in Atlanta...wooooooweeeeeee!!! I mean, I know they don't have hairy armpits about the Parisian ladiesth you so anxiously espousth to luuuuv, but mmmmhmmmm...Lubbock is a HOT BED for young hussies!!!

Now, back to my regularly scheduled glass of courvossier!