SWA Mins

[avoidingmyboss]

Man this thread won't die nor will the argument of civies vs military. Here it goes back to the top....again.

Now I’m part of the problem not the solution.

 

[Gump]

Krusty, what's with that attitude? Shot down by Delta and the military at some point? Better throttle back a bit. I've met great CRJ drivers, Delta pilots, civilian pilots as well as military pilots. I've also me all the above that are absolute wastes of O-2. Get some decaf, fly your plane and try to play well with others. We're all on the same team so let's act like it.

 

[roadking64]

I am hoping I am getting close to the call but not expecting yet. 7200TT
1400PIC Turbine
4000 121 Carrier


737 type (96)
4 year degree
Please phone ............RING

 

[boeingdriver]

Guam,

I have had my application in with SWA for almost a year now.

4 senior internal LOR's

I have 10,000 hours total, 5300 turbine pic with 1800 737 pic current and qualified.

The only thing I dont have is a 4 year degree...I will graduate in May 2005.

I have not been called and the only thing I can figure is I am missing the computer search by not having that college degree box checked.

Point...GO FINISH YOUR DEGREE, dont be stupid like me.

Good luck to everybody

 

[Guam360]

thanks Boeing,

I am still enrolled @ Embry-Riddle, it may take me until the end of the year to finish my BS, I am doing my type this month then right into the next semester.

hope good things for us both and all out there needing a job!


Guam

 

[JumpJetter]

Just wanted to put a bump on this thread as there have been quite a few calls for June interviews. Callees, would you mind posting your PIC times. Anybody called with 1500 hours PIC?

Thanks
JJ

pleasecallpleasecallpleasecallpleasecallpleasecallpleasecallpleasecall

 

[luv2fly]

Just to keep things on the level, LORs do not come into play until after you have interviewed. So having a LOR or ten from senior capts will not get you an interview any sooner than having a few LORs from newhires.

My contacts tell me they look for the following in a successful candidate:

1. Pic Turb > 1700
2. Currently flying with good currency > 2 years in cockpit without a break
3. Total time (non-mil) >5000 (mil total time is lower)
4. Leadership role (check airman) good but not necessary
5. 737 type is necessary
6. Broad scope of flying experience, usually means a few different types of planes or jobs
7. 4 year degree

Everyone waiting for the call just keep flying and update your times frequently!

Good luck and fly safe!!

 

[Kabul]

Guys,
Not too sure about the military bias:

Total time (before .3 conversion that SWA allows mil guys): 4450
PIC Turb: 2700+, 1700+ instructor time
Current 737/BBJ guy 1000+ hours in last 36 months
737 typed 2001
AF evaluator/former chief pilot
Flown a few different jets
Masters degree
No skeletons in the closet
Been sending Herb a Christmas card for the past 10 years.

Just hoping for a call. I can't retire until early next year. Kind of curious as to why SWA put the date of availability in the app? Any thoughts?
Kabul

 

[MXAV8R]

Called on May 23 for June 21 interview

HPA type Feb 20 '05
TT 4600
Jet Pic 2000
PIC 3200
121 PIC 2900
Typed in E120, CL-65, B737
Just a regular line pilot at a regional...

Good luck everyone!

 

[LR45JI]

Was at HP yesterday to get my book and pay my deposit. Lindsey was there and pretty much confirmed everything you guys said. 1600-1800 Turbine PIC

As Lindsey said: There was a time .....if you have 1000 Turbine PIC and a type you will get the call; That time doesn't exist anymore but could come back.

The pool is always changing but if I was reading between the line correctly......Turbine PIC time will start to come down for canidates they call to interview.

 

[apcooper]

Just out of curiousity, is there a conversion factor for not having a degree as a civilian. For example, does 2000 TPIC, 737 tp, and a 4 yr degree roughly equal 3000 TPIC, 737 tp and no degree?? Just looking for a rough estimate rather than an exact number. Also, how much will only having 135 turboprop PIC time set you back?

 

[satpak77]

Just out of curiousity, is there a conversion factor for not having a degree as a civilian. For example, does 2000 TPIC, 737 tp, and a 4 yr degree roughly equal 3000 TPIC, 737 tp and no degree?? Just looking for a rough estimate rather than an exact number. Also, how much will only having 135 turboprop PIC time set you back?

for some reason all the "1600-1800-2000 turbine PIC" posts make me thing that the mins are 1600-1800-2000 turbine PIC.

But maybe I am reading it wrong

 

[ivauir]

Just out of curiousity, is there a conversion factor for not having a degree as a civilian. For example, does 2000 TPIC, 737 tp, and a 4 yr degree roughly equal 3000 TPIC, 737 tp and no degree?? Just looking for a rough estimate rather than an exact number. Also, how much will only having 135 turboprop PIC time set you back?

As Rummy would say this is "unknowable". It just depends who else is out there. We've hired folks with no degree and there we several 135 only types in my class. They are going to interview all their high time/4 year degree/typed/military trained/121 time folks first. I think they'll be interviewing you before they talk to folks who just barely make the mins, but not before anybody with 3k Turb PIC. My guess would put you somewhere in between the bottom and the middle of the stack. But who really knows? And lots of things change affect that order: how much 737 time do you have? Focus on what you can change: are you close to that degree? Is it practical to get some 121 time? Or maybe just keep building 135 turbine PIC. If you get a chance to talk to anyone in the People department, focus on what you can do to be more competetive, not so much where you are in line.

Good luck, you might not get here soon, but it is possible and this crazily competetive job market won't last forever.

 

[301SW]

737 Type

To all those who have recently received their 737 Type Rating: Approximately how much does it cost (I realize that the fee varies from place to place). And, how long does it take?

Many thanks for your help.

 

[DisrespectedJ32]

FWIW -

Anecdotal evidence suggests that ever since they lowered their hiring projections, and froze hiring the last couple of months, things have definately gotten a bit more competative.

I spoke to a SWA CP two weeks ago and the magic number appears to have gone up. I am being told that I will need between 2200 - 2500 Turbine PIC to be considered for a call. I was told 1700 - 1900 Turbine PIC back last fall by RK in the PD.

I believe that the number might be lower for MIL guys and CIV guys with heavy jet time. If one or two major carriers goes tango uniform this year, the numbers may go up even further considering not just the mainline guys hitting the breadline but also the regional guys who flew for the mainline as well. Lets hope that does not happen, for everybody's sake.

My 411:

5000 TT
1800 Turbine PIC (Mostly J32 )
2800 121
B737 Type
4 Year Degree
Super-Duper Squeeky-Clean Record
Regular Joe - No Training Dept/Check Airman

They (SWA folks) all keep saying they like to hire no-Autopilot 19 seater types like me. But, I haven't heard of any getting the call lately. If you know of anybody that has gotten a call who is flying the 19 seat stuff, please post.

Regards,

J32

 

[Captain Overs]

I have approx 4000TT, 2000 PIC 121 (J41, D328Jet, and CRJ) and I was told (at AIR Inc last weekend) that I'd need another 700-800 hours and a 737 type to be remotely competitive. Oh well....

Get your type and you'll be called yesterday.

 

[enigma]

Get your type and you'll be called yesterday.

Captain Overs, I don't know if your post is some sort of inside joke, or if you're serious. If you're serious, let me suggest that you re-read many of the SWA "qualified" strings that have been written over the past few months. Many people who have better times than j41driver are still waiting for a call. (This isn't personal, j41 has more 121 P than do I)

Obviously, j41 is competitive, but it seems unlikely that his numbers will guarantee an immediate call.

Other than that, good luck to j41, and all the rest of us "waiting for the call"

enigma

 

[Mr Hat]

Get your type and you'll be called yesterday.

Yeah really...my sim partner went one month to the day from type ride to phone call. I haven't been as lucky but my time will come when the time is right.