SWA jumpseating

[moabmic]

Just hoping that someone out there can give me any info on what loads from ABQ to TPA have been like and what the possibility of actually getting a jumpseat would be? Thanks greatly in advance!

 

[dhampton]

Nothing specific, but since the kids are back in school, This is a great time of year to nonrev/jumpseat.

 

[moabmic]

Is SWA taking a certain number of JSers now or is it unlimited as long as there are seats in the back? Also when is the TSA going to start allowing offline jumpseaters in the cockpit again? Thanks.

 

[SWA/FO]

2 folks.... unless you work for AWA, ATA, Frontier or US Airways = we take as many as we can of those folks.

 

[Maj]

SWA/FO,

I ride on you guys a bunch and appreciate the hospitality, it's a lot like riding on line. I'm curious though, why do you let an unlimited number of only the carriers you listed? We at JB have a very liberal JS policy, and if 50 SWA folks (or pretty much anyone, including FA's) show up we will take them all if we have the seats. We'll even let you ride on a FA jumpseat as long as you can fit in the straps. I've been #3 only once on SWA and was left behind despite my best tactful sniveling. If it's a matter of a reciprocal agreement perhaps we should have our people contact your people.
I'm not gloating about our policy, I'm just trying to improve mine and everyone else's commute.

Cheers,
Maj

 

[Eagleflip]

For that matter, why would any carrier not have unlimited jumpseating? Unfair?

Ok, well how about reciprocal unlimited jumpseating for those interested, e.g. "JetBlue offers unlimited jumpseats, so we'll offer unlimited jumpseats to JetBlue folks...?"

After all, isn't this something that helps all of our bretheren to and from work?

Aside from the (perhaps) 3% fuel penalty for any given weight, what's the downside to this plan?

 

[moabmic]

Also you didn't mention Mesa/Airmidwest in the list. However since we fly as AWAexpress and USAir express does that qualify us? I believe our policy also is to take unlimited jumpseaters. I don't know that's why I'm asking but will need to know here real soon by eom. Thanks again.

Mic

 

[SWA/FO]

All it would take is a phone call. AWA, ATA, Frontier and US Airways allow unlimited SWA guys on too. Sounds good to me, I don't like sweating it out either... But with jetBlue's load factors it might not be a good deal for us

By-the-way, what is up with the stock at JBLU? Did they start selling more of it? Everyday it goes up 2 - 3 dollars - I look in the aviation news section for some big announcement. Usually nothing has happen - so what gives?

 

[bothfly]

Since you guys still have to sit in the back.
Got to www.ifly737.com and then click on Pass Bureau and then Non-Rev Listing.
It will give you the phone # (866)-SWA-PLAY.
Then you can find out if you flight is "good", bad" or "ugly".
Good Luck....

 

[shagadelic]

I just updated my manual today, and Mesa IS on the unlimited jumpseat list, as are US Air, Horizon, ATA, Frontier, & America West.

I am sure we would love to recipricate with jetBlue. Get your people with our people. I know getting left sucks, as United has left me at the curb about as many times as they have taken me.

 

[vx9.tc]

Maj and any others interested in the recip. agreement with SWA.
Here's some info I found in my Logbook concerning our Jumpseat coordinator, the name may be dated but the contact info should be good. Let us know if you and "your people" have any luck. Sure would be great if everyone could benefit fully from this excellent benefit.

SWAPA Jumpseat coordinator
Jens Malmborg
800-969-7972
[email protected]

Cheers,
TC

 

[ClearRight]

All it takes is a phone call, huh? Our jumpseat coordinator has made numerous phone calls to no avail. Skywest is NOT on the list! We'll take as many of ANYONE in our open seats- just wish others would reciprocate. I think it's been frustrating for those who regularly commute on Southwest.

Okay, I'll step down from the box now!



. . . nice wingletted Southwest avatar up there- looks good!

 

[sidseal]

Comair also takes unlimited, so, hook us up, guys!

 

[enigma]

Spirit will also take all we can hold. If the gate agent says that the js is full, politely ask them to ask the Captain if he will sign a pass. All of us will.

As far as the SWA-unlimited js reciprocal agreements go, Spirit has been trying to get one for years. We keep getting told that
SWA crews don't need to travel where we fly and therefore it would not be advantageous to SWA to allow us the the unlimited agreement. I sort of understand, and I intend to fix the problem by getting hired by SWA

regards,
enigma

 

[Maj]

Thanks

Thanks for the info folks. I'll pass the POC along to our JS coordinator and hope for the best.

Cheers,
Maj

 

[viking737]

They don't think any SW guy would like to go down to SJU sometime?

 

[viking737]

Just wanted to add to my previous post, it is too bad that some non-pilot pencil pusher is deciding where pilots may or may not need to go.
We have the same problem here at AA, I was trying to get a friend's commuter airline on our list, and the answer was we don't
need them , Eagle flies most places they do.

 

[shagadelic]

SWA guys sometimes use Spirit out of DEN as an alternate way to Chicago (through DTW). I'll e-mail our folks and give them my 2 Cents. Personally, I think if you give us unlimited, we should give you unlimited. But I am just a small cog in a big wheel...

 

[chperplt]

On that SWA non rev number... What does "good" actually mean?

 

[RJones]

It means Good

You'll get a seat.

RJ

 

[chase]

Unlimited Jumpseat

A minor point but important one. As for getting unlimited jumpseat access, the process is slightly more involved than a mere phone call. We use to offer just two airlines but after much research by our JS coordinator & committee (very small) they went to SWA management with proposals for unlimited for a number of airlines. The company stated OK, we'll open it up to 5 more airlines & you the SWAPA pilots can vote on which ones' you feel are most deserving/applicable to where we fly since you're the ones who use these carriers.

The vote was held & 5 more carriers were added. Slightly more than a phone call. Could more be added, probably but it will involve discussions with the JS coordinators by the appropriate folks at your company & then follow-up by our folks. Most of the energy of all JS coordinators is working out the bugs in the new test program (I don't know of any carriers participating...has anyone flown in a cockpit since 10 Aug when the program started?) not adding new carriers.

Lots of factors involved in who gets unlimite access. Most Capts are pretty good about interpreting the rules as are our CSAs. While this is an issue (I will soon be a commuter again if upgrades happen next year the big picture is that only so much energy can be put toward it but I think our folks are always working to improve it. Don't hesitate to have "your folks, call our folks" to get the right info & help make the process work.

cheers & God Bless,

 

[RJones]

I will soon be a commuter again if upgrades happen next year

You upgrade? That's scary.

RJ

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Chase, good luck on the upgrade!
RJ, were you able to get that list of aircraft flown all out in one breath?!! LOL
My ATR j/s open to as many as I can put on and welcome.

 

[RJones]

Yeh, that's just one breath. It'd take about three more breaths to list em all.

 

[ivauir]

Yeah, its a shame they never let you fly the -500

 

[RJones]

Yeah, its a shame they never let you fly the -500

I have, just ran out of breath.