SWA Intel

[Sluggo_63]

Only the limpets who have seen it work for 40 plus years

How many years did the PanAm/Eastern/Northwest/United/etc. limpets see it work, before it didn't work?

I wish the best for all you guys, but just because it worked for 40 years, doesn't mean it will work for another 40...

 

[carl p]

Oui. But I wasn't the lucky officer -- I was the grumpy General.

LOL, well played sir!

 

[Dan Roman]

The difference between past and present is swa has never been the big dog. They have always been somewhere in between a good regional and a major. Have always gone after the low hanging fruit. That low hanging fruit has not been as plentiful of late, thus the stagnation of the last 3-4 years. The Airtran merger is a very different game plan from the past. Swa has found out they have run out of easy internal growth. I guess we will know in 5 years or so if it is LCC pt. deaux or not.

Careful, I'm told in another string if you make a realistic observation like that you are a "SWA hater"!

 

[waveflyer]

How many years did the PanAm/Eastern/Northwest/United/etc. limpets see it work, before it didn't work?

It worked for them for about 80... So...
Not your best point....
But like I said- keep betting against and trying to undercut us on wages...

 

[Scope out RJ's]

It worked for them for about 80... So...
Not your best point....
But like I said- keep betting against and trying to undercut us on wages...

Did you really just say that? You PFT fools were undercutting everyone for 30 years with your BS payscales, lousy benefits......And now YOU, a FNG who bought his job, are telling the legacy guys not to undercut?
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Thanks for the laugh wave. Maybe you need to get back to the gym and sport up for that special man in your life.

 

[waveflyer]

Got you with that line, didn't I scope?
;-)
But seriously- It's been 10 years- lose the belly and actually race me- dont talk about how fast you were in college...

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Got you with that line, didn't I scope?
;-)

All the comedians out of work and you're trying to be funny..........

But seriously- It's been 10 years- lose the belly and actually race me- dont talk about how fast you were in college...

I actually wasn't that fast in college.

 

[Sluggo_63]

It worked for them for about 80... So...
Not your best point....

I guess it sucks for the 25 year old that get hired there now, but you'll be gone, so who cares, right?

But like I said- keep betting against and trying to undercut us on wages...

I'm a FedEx guy... not trying to undercut you at all.

 

[waveflyer]

Apologies for the wage comment then- most definitely undeserved.
But that was blatant flame anyway- so ok- so what then is your point?
That there's some sort of lifespan for airlines? That all airlines will fail at X years no matter?
I don't subscribe to a sense of security eminating from my job- I get it from my character and development as a human being- I'll make my way in this world- things at southwest could change for the worse here- but in my experience at 6 airlines and codesharing w/ 3 others- we do things better- from all sides of the company-
I work and act and hope to help that last-

 

[CLECA]

We were heading to Hawaii in January and I heard a SWA callsign from ATC. I said "Did I hear that right, was that SWA?"

SWA Pilot: "Yep, proving runs. I guess the cat is out of the bag"

Brief conversation followed but, I heard it with my own ears. I actually figured this was old news by now.

 

[Ty Webb]

We were heading to Hawaii in January and I heard a SWA callsign from ATC. I said "Did I hear that right, was that SWA?"

SWA Pilot: "Yep, proving runs. I guess the cat is out of the bag"

Brief conversation followed but, I heard it with my own ears. I actually figured this was old news by now.

Ha-ha . . . .

Well, you weren't in the Wafflewagon, the Sabreliner, or the EMB145. :laugh:

 

[texman]

Ha-ha . . . .

Well, you weren't in the Wafflewagon, the Sabreliner, or the EMB145. :laugh:

WTF is a waffle wagon?LOL!

 

[Ty Webb]

WTF is a waffle wagon?LOL!

The mighty Westwind . . . the aircraft formerly known as the Rockwell Jet Commander, which morphed into the Westwind, which morphed into the Astra . . . and now hails as the Gulfstream G100.

Not a bad jet, but I wouldn't want to go to Hawaii in it without ferry tanks.

 

[texman]

The mighty Westwind . . . the aircraft formerly known as the Rockwell Jet Commander, which morphed into the Westwind, which morphed into the Astra . . . and now hails as the Gulfstream G100.

Not a bad jet, but I wouldn't want to go to Hawaii in it without ferry tanks.

Ahhhhhhhh yes! The -II was a great plane too!

 

[SKC]

We were heading to Hawaii in January and I heard a SWA callsign from ATC. I said "Did I hear that right, was that SWA?"

SWA Pilot: "Yep, proving runs. I guess the cat is out of the bag"

Brief conversation followed but, I heard it with my own ears. I actually figured this was old news by now.

How can you do ETOPS proving runs before an ETOPS program is even completed, or approved? How can you do proving runs without interaction with Mx Control or dispatch? Why would you do proving runs with an aircraft on a route that you won't be using it on?

 

[ArcadiaMaxima]

Who said none of it is complete. Just because you may not know does not mean it is not done. SWA is very secretive with what they do.

 

[SKC]

Who said none of it is complete. Just because you may not know does not mean it is not done. SWA is very secretive with what they do.

So, we're reinventing the wheel and turning the normal routine completely backwards and operating proving runs BEFORE the entire ETOPS training program is completed. What is the benefit in that? Also, why do proving runs if we're not going to be operating ETOPS flights for at least 1.5 years?

We're operating flights to/from HI without flight releases (req for even Pt 91 flts here)? That's new.

 

[FIREMAN]

Apparently SWA has a very good working relationship with their POI and the FAA in general. They get a lot of things through that others either can’t or don’t think of. The tid -bits that we are getting about transition training has several scratching their heads wondering how they got that approved.

 

[i fly boxes]

So, when do interview calls start going out?

 

[stalker]

mid april