SWA going to Denver!!!

[TexaSWA]

With dim prospects of getting Wright repealed...

Where do you get this stuff? Even politicans who are against the repeal have been on record saying they know its days are numbered.

 

[FlyBarneyJets]

Will this make life tough for Frontier? Or can they both survive the fare wars?
Could be ugly for F9 pilots in the future.

I dunno about that. I'd think that it'd make things tougher for United, primarily. Having two low-cost carriers operating from one of your biggest hubs is going to make it tough on them to match the low fares, even with Ted. And how many routes would Frontier have that Southwest would share? I haven't looked at it, but I imagine it'd be relatively few.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

 

[General Lee]

Isn't DEN the only market where SWA has made a retreat?

How about SFO?


That is good for SWA, bad for F9 and Ted.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[crashpad]

Will this make life tough for Frontier? Or can they both survive the fare wars?
Could be ugly for F9 pilots in the future.

Very contrary, this is the nudge (bull-dozing shove) that will send TED into the abyss of memorable names like MarkAir.

As for F9, this is really good news. We welcome the increase passenger flow that SWA brings to every airport they serve.

 

[HalinTexas]

For an airline that says they want to see ATA make it, they sure aren't doing us any favors.

 

[canyonblue737]

For an airline that says they want to see ATA make it, they sure aren't doing us any favors.

I *hope* I am wrong for I know *many* ATA folks, all good guys and girls, but to me this smells like SWA has clearly decided the days of ATA are numbered and so SWA is doing what is best for them alone, not for the combination of SWA/ATA which likely won't last much longer. The rumors around here speak to that daily.

 

[mach none]

With dim prospects of getting Wright repealed, no help in SEA, SWA will move it's next fight to the Denver area. In 12 months they will threaten to build a new terminal in COS, as Denver will be pegged as too crowded and too expensive.

Like Western Pacific?

 

[Dizel8]

Well, it does appear the orderly dismantling of ATA is proceeding on course. I would fear, that it is only a matter of time, before further routes are pulled from ATA.

Whatever happened to the 737-3/4 that ATA was getting, has that been deep sixed?

 

[miles otoole]

Very contrary, this is the nudge (bull-dozing shove) that will send TED into the abyss of memorable names like MarkAir.

As for F9, this is really good news. We welcome the increase passenger flow that SWA brings to every airport they serve.

Even when the increased passenger flow will be away from F9? I am not sure I understand your optimism.

 

[crashpad]

Even when the increased passenger flow will be away from F9? I am not sure I understand your optimism.

Ticket prices and CASM being comparable, which they will be, I believe F9 offers a superior product to the customer.

 

[FlyBarneyJets]

The "Southwest Effect" has a history of increasing passenger traffic for all carriers at airports where Southwest introduces service. I'd imagine that Frontier has to be expecting that.

 

[HalinTexas]

I *hope* I am wrong for I know *many* ATA folks, all good guys and girls, but to me this smells like SWA has clearly decided the days of ATA are numbered and so SWA is doing what is best for them alone, not for the combination of SWA/ATA which likely won't last much longer. The rumors around here speak to that daily.

Leads me to believe that SWA never had any intention "helping" ATA out. The plan all along was to get some more gates, test a few markets, keep FL out of MDW, and eliminate some competition. Maybe acquire an ETOPS certificate on the cheap.

...and so SWA is doing what is best for them alone

Hasn't this always been the case? SWA managment is very capable of doing this again, even to it's own.

Rumors around here speak hourly. GK and other upper managment was circling the offices last week. Chief Pilot's office believes it's own lies. Union is full of "it." The latest "end date" appears to be Nov. 9. Hearing in HH Lorch's court. Time to $hit or get off the pot.

 

[beechlive]

One LCC try Two

never mind

 

[canyonblue]

Hmmm, possibly leaving Big D. If Dallas/Ft Worth residents don't believe WN holds a grudge, just ask any resident of Denver.

Typical conversation I have with my friends in Denver:

"When is Southwest going to fly into Denver?"

Me - "Never, never, and never!!!!!! Denver has a better chance of getting service from Ghana Airlines than Southwest. We burned our bridges a long time ago and no amount of butt kissin' will repair the damage done."

C Ya

CB

Never say never.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I though they were going to MSP.

I am sure they will go wherever ATA was profitable.