SWA DB- DING You suck!

[BenderGonzales]

I'm not a big fan of Southwest -- in fact it's not likely you'll ever catch me on one of their airplanes -- but, I think that the stuff you see on "Airline" probably occurs on just about EVERY airline.

As airfares have fallen and with the onset of internet booking engines, it has become cheaper to fly than drive for a whole new segment of the population. Flying has become more like a Jerry Springer audition than a dignified means of transportation.

Regardless of whether you fly SWA, JetBlew, AirTran, United, Northwest, Delta etc... you're going to find the same morons that you see on "Airline" who should probably be removed from the gene pool for the greater good.

 

[SWA GUY]

Quote by Bender Gonzales "As airfares have fallen and with the onset of internet booking engines, it has become cheaper to fly than drive for a whole new segment of the population."

I'm not sure where you've been, but WN has been providing travel at rates this low for the last 34 years....

 

[NEDude]

Quote by Bender Gonzales "As airfares have fallen and with the onset of internet booking engines, it has become cheaper to fly than drive for a whole new segment of the population."

I'm not sure where you've been, but WN has been providing travel at rates this low for the last 34 years....

While SWA has been, other have not. I think that was what he was refering to - the growth of the low fare carriers and the Pricelines and Travelocities of the world have made finding the "super saver" fares for all airlines easier for the general public than it has been in the past.

And yes, you will find those people on all airlines. I have run into plenty of low class passengers in the CAL system (mainline, express and connection).

 

[jetalc]

Gatorade,

Here's the deal:

- There are 10,000 qualified guys on the street.

- SWA interviews as many as possible.

- They choose who they want.

If that's 1% or 90% that's THEIR BUSINESS.

Typically, I believe, it's less than 10%.

Get over it.

Try again.

Lose the attitude.

WL

Whine Lover - how very original...have you read the previous posts? I believe your "facts" are overstating the obvious. You're assuming that Gatorade has some sort of attitude, and also assuming that somehow came out in the interview - neither of which is necessarily accurate. I've seen so many networking "tools" get hired at SWA that it makes me sick...they can have 'em!

 

[Mr Hat]

As airfares have fallen and with the onset of internet booking engines, it has become cheaper to fly than drive for a whole new segment of the population. Flying has become more like a Jerry Springer audition than a dignified means of transportation.

I couldn't let this one pass.....Are you suggesting that the lower middle class people stay home and leave the airlines for more "dignified" passengers? Money doesn't give you dignity dude.

 

[MarylandONE]

Gatorade has some sort of attitude,.....

I don't think he is assuming. It's pretty obvious from the first post.

 

[AA717driver]

SWA will pick the right people regardless of their background.

I think that's a little naive. Once HR gets involved, all bets are off. I would have more respect for anyone's hiring process if a random selection of line pilots took interviewees out for beers and wings and had them ride around on the jumpseat for a couple of legs, shooting the $h!t during cruise.

Oh well, in a perfect world, I guess...TC

 

[Jetjockey]

"it has become cheaper to fly than drive for a whole new segment of the population."

Isn't that the goal of Southwest, hence the freedom part of the ad mantra? Call thier passengers what you'd like, they love Southwest. Legacy airlines for years would price gouge thier passengers making flying unaffordable for most of the population. I have no travel benefits since I'm furloughed. All 3 times this year I've traveled to interviews, I've used Southwest. You just can't beat thier fares, and I love thier service. I've been in the airline industry for 15 years, and have used just about every major airline in the US and a few overseas. When it comes to my money, I'm using Southwest.

 

[MarylandONE]

I think that's a little naive. Once HR gets involved, all bets are off. I would have more respect for anyone's hiring process if a random selection of line pilots took interviewees out for beers and wings and had them ride around on the jumpseat for a couple of legs, shooting the $h!t during cruise.

Oh well, in a perfect world, I guess...TC

It's not just a personality check. They want people who will go out of their way to help the customer. Not just be a bump in the cockpit before push when all your checks are done. Look at any of the captains we have and you will see them helping people all the time while the FO is usually getting the deck ready.

The PD has done a great job and I commend them for it. Every FO I have flown with has the SW stuff and that's why SWA has kicked the sh!t out of every other company for the last 30+ years.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Got to keep and eye on what is going on with the competition.

FJ

Ha ha.....no doubt. I got my eye on you too

Hobie,
Thanks. Yes, I feel extremely fortunate. Now I just have to work on getting all my buds hired.

 

[Juvat]

I'm not a big fan of Southwest -- in fact it's not likely you'll ever catch me on one of their airplanes -- but, I think that the stuff you see on "Airline" probably occurs on just about EVERY airline.

As airfares have fallen and with the onset of internet booking engines, it has become cheaper to fly than drive for a whole new segment of the population. Flying has become more like a Jerry Springer audition than a dignified means of transportation.

Regardless of whether you fly SWA, JetBlew, AirTran, United, Northwest, Delta etc... you're going to find the same morons that you see on "Airline" who should probably be removed from the gene pool for the greater good.

Holy smokes! In one part of your post, you sound like an elitist snob who thinks that the only people in the air should be wearing expensive suits, sipping martinis, riding in their Yankee Clippers. Just curious, are you one of those people who wears an ascot? Did you get beat up a lot in school?

Then in the next part of your post, you seem to be in favor of some bizarre form of airline passenger ethnic cleansing "for the greater good." Would you mind defining what the "greater good" is in your world?

Where I come from, the greater good is in giving everyone the Freedom to Fly.

 

[BenderGonzales]

If you guys could look past your "rah rah" BS for a few minutes you might see that I was defending you.

I was responding to a thread in which someone said that he wasnt sure he wanted to work for Southwest due to what he sees on "Airline".

I told him that, although I personally dont care for flying on Southwest, that behavior can be found on any airline.

My reason for saying that is simply that airfares have come down to a level (industrywide) when ANYONE can afford to fly rather than drive.

If you've ever been to an Amtrak or Greyhound station you know that there are a few people who just don't know how to be civilized. The airlines are beginning to attract the same type of people. It's the 10% rule.

Look, Southwest does a lot of things very well. Personally, I choose to spend my air-travel dollar elsewhere. I prefer assigned seating. I don't care for the song and dance silliness. I like the ability to fly first class. I like the airline lounges.

As a frequent flier, I enjoy some of the perks that go along with having to fly as much as I do.

That doesn't take away from SWA's success.... certainly you must realize that you cant be all things to all people! And I hope you realize that not EVERY pilot in the industry wants to work for you.

 

[Juvat]

If you guys could look past your "rah rah" BS for a few minutes you might see that I was defending you.

I was responding to a thread in which someone said that he wasnt sure he wanted to work for Southwest due to what he sees on "Airline".

I told him that, although I personally dont care for flying on Southwest, that behavior can be found on any airline.

My reason for saying that is simply that airfares have come down to a level (industrywide) when ANYONE can afford to fly rather than drive.

If you've ever been to an Amtrak or Greyhound station you know that there are a few people who just don't know how to be civilized. The airlines are beginning to attract the same type of people. It's the 10% rule.

Look, Southwest does a lot of things very well. Personally, I choose to spend my air-travel dollar elsewhere. I prefer assigned seating. I don't care for the song and dance silliness. I like the ability to fly first class. I like the airline lounges.

As a frequent flier, I enjoy some of the perks that go along with having to fly as much as I do.

That doesn't take away from SWA's success.... certainly you must realize that you cant be all things to all people! And I hope you realize that not EVERY pilot in the industry wants to work for you.

And you, sir, did not even come close to comprehending the two points that I made in my previous post. My comments are aimed squarely at your own words, and have nothing to do with the historical context in which you strain to place them.

Allow me to reiterate my points in summary fashion:

1. You are an arrogant, elitist--much like Mr. Howell on Gilligan's Island, and
2. You think that people who do not meet your socioeconomic, frequent first class flyer status should be somehow eliminated.

How very sickening indeed.

 

[canyonblue]

much like Mr. Howell on Gilligan's Island

As long as it is known that I am the Skipper!

 

[canyonblue737]

I really hope for all my friend's sake that it stays that way. You are right. I would love work there to if it wasn't for all those people in the back.
You can put a lot more revenue on a cargo plane. Aw, $hit, it's a long story but I used to really want to work there.

but capt. megadeath you and i both know the scholarship is such a 1 in a 1000 type of thing. when you set such a thing up it is inevitable that 999 will think they got hosed.

i too am the type of person that can get pissed and think, "why not me" when i get passed over, but with a scholarship like that one it requires a bit of luck too, although i am sure the winners are all very qualified, we both know one. i wouldn't feel wronged.

 

[BenderGonzales]

Stick it in your Canyonblue, Juvat.

 

[SWA tech]

Just watch that show "Airline" on A&E. It cured any desire I had to drive I mean fly a greyhound bus for SWA.

No thanks!

We give people what they want the freedom to fly. And for the people that work here we get a pay check when they tell you are getting paid and have a job for more then 6 months. We all have been
at other places with no job security and pay checks that bounce. SWA you get job security and good pay and the best people to work with all the way from top to bottom. If you don't get in try till you do but if you dont like swa then don't apply here. So all SWA haters get a life and no I don't drink the kool-aid

 

[SWA/FO]

You guys, that hate SWA have another plan? Waiting for the big 3 to start hiring again?

Would you rather roll the dice then look at facts? Why wait for someone to die or retire for your upgrade when you can look at firm aircraft orders.

 

[capt. megadeth]

but capt. megadeath you and i both know the scholarship is such a 1 in a 1000 type of thing. when you set such a thing up it is inevitable that 999 will think they got hosed.

i too am the type of person that can get pissed and think, "why not me" when i get passed over, but with a scholarship like that one it requires a bit of luck too, although i am sure the winners are all very qualified, we both know one. i wouldn't feel wronged.

I don't feel wronged. I used to, but I am really glad that I got turned down. Look where I am at now.

 

[capt. megadeth]

SWA you get job security

There is no job security at an airline unless you are the C screw everyone over for a $6000 shower curtain EO.