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capt. megadeth said:
I just love the "Try again.....you may get hired on the 3rd try." WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!! "Sir, you are not good enough today, but you may be good enough next year." WTFO??????/

The fact remains that there is still a human factor involved in the hiring process. The very same interview with one person in 2004 could have had a different outcome in 2005, unfortunately that is what happens when humans get involved. Just because some guy may of dumped you at one time, you didn't give up on men right? We all know of someone who was turned down, but without being in the interview or knowing all the details, there is not much that can be done besides going through all the steps of grief. I'd be pissed off too, and the man has a right to vent, after all it is one of the steps.

1-Denial-"this can't be happening to me", No crying. Not accepting or even acknowledging the rejection.

2-Anger-"why me?", feelings of wanting to fight back or get even with the airline, anger at the airline, blaming them for not hiring you.

3-Bargaining-bargaining often takes place before the loss. Attempting to make deals with the airline who is interviewing, or attempting to make deals with God to stop or change the loss. Begging, wishing, praying for them to hire you.

4-Depression-overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of type rating cost, as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb. Perhaps feeling suicidal.

5-Acceptance-there is a difference between resignation and acceptance. You have to accept the loss, not just try to bear it quietly. Realization that it takes two to make or break an interview. Realization that the airline will not hire you that it is not their fault, they didn't reject you on purpose. (even in cases of suicide, often the deceased person, was not in their right frame of mind) Finding the good that can come out of the pain of loss, finding comfort and healing. Our goals turn toward personal growth. Stay with fond memories of the airline.

Get help. You will survive. You will heal, even if you cannot believe that now, just know that it is true.
 
So why bring so many applicants and turn so many down? I heard that it costs $1,100 per applicant. Not only that, but I know of people that there's no way in hell should've been hired. It's stupid.
 
FlyAuburn said:
So why bring so many applicants and turn so many down? I heard that it costs $1,100 per applicant. Not only that, but I know of people that there's no way in hell should've been hired. It's stupid.

Well, fortunately for some and unfortunately for others, no airline has mastered the interview process.......not even SWA.
 
FlyAuburn said:
So why bring so many applicants and turn so many down? I heard that it costs $1,100 per applicant. Not only that, but I know of people that there's no way in hell should've been hired. It's stupid.

There is another thread on this subject buried from last month.

I'm not sure why they bring in so many. I do know they block off a week for interviewing. I figure they want to bring in as many people as possible during that week as they can. It doesn't cost much more to bring in 40 people instead of the best 20. There is no sim test at SWA.

Every hiring cycle is different. If the company needs 30 hires a month they get the best they can, plain and simple. They can hold out a little while for more competitive folks but eventually the pool needs to be fed to so the cockpits filled.


Have an opinion on some peers do you? Macho talk about so and so points directly back to you as someone who doesn't play well with others. It also says a lot about your ability to instruct and share your knowledge. You may be looked at as the one to cause trouble or quit for greener pastures at the earliest opportunity. You might be better but you might be more expensive too.

The airline interview is not a test of flying strength or like winning the lottery but, IMHO, is something in-between. Experience is important but timing is often more so.
 
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dang!

I haven't even interviewed yet and you all have me sweating bullets! As for the 8,000 Gs for the type, well it's gone and there is no looking back! Even if I never make it out of a barbie jet, atleast I can tell my grand kids I am typed in a "big jet"!!
 
You're as accurate as Mrs. Cleo. Was that her name? Maybe you have a crystal ball and can tell what my personality is like. Are you that confident that the system is flawless? I'm saying that it doesn't make sense. Just like Capt. Mega, you should at least admit that. Macho? Hardly. You've always had a good opinion of every co-worker? You're so off base. Trust me, I know how to play well with others. Especially, SWA people. But, I won't waste my time telling you how.
 
FlyAuburn said:
You're as accurate as Mrs. Cleo. Was that her name? Maybe you have a crystal ball and can tell what my personality is like. Are you that confident that the system is flawless? I'm saying that it doesn't make sense. Just like Capt. Mega, you should at least admit that. Macho? Hardly. You've always had a good opinion of every co-worker? You're so off base. Trust me, I know how to play well with others. Especially, SWA people. But, I won't waste my time telling you how.

I am surprised at this kind of attitude from a fellow AU grad.
 
mach zero said:
I am surprised at this kind of attitude from a fellow AU grad.

First, War Eagle! No attitude here. Honestly. I'm just making an observation and at the same time asking why SWA would spend so much money and time. Someone answered that it doesn't affect that much. cool. That's enough for me.
I've had beers with SWA old timers that have been there a lot longer than any of us in this industry, and they ask the same question that I'm asking. They've recommended great candidates, but no luck. The fact is that the system is not flawless. You gotta at least admit that. If SWA is wasting so much money, wouldn't you be concerned? I would. But, apparently, it's not. That's great. I guess that rumor is not accurate.
It's hard to convey a tone through these posts, but don't judge so quickly. :D
War Eagle!
 
There are thousands upon thousands of pilots all competing for those 400-500 jobs a year. I know pilots are bad with numbers but do the math already. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade but the odds of getting hired at LUV right now are very, very slim.

These places offering 73 types must be laughing all the way to the bank......
 
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Juvat said:
Your eloquent post is another case in point. And thanks for the mental picture...don't strain yourself while pointing your butt skyward as you fart.


Okay Sparky, you know what......Na, forget it. Why am I wasting energy on the likes of you when I could be cleaning my toilet?
 
I was formulating a long eloquent post that falls in line with this string, but I'm on vacation, starting today, and I've been drinking.

Life ain't fair, but most of the time it's grand.
 
I am not going to waste my time by reading all of the follow up pages to this thread. All I have to say is that all you guys who think SWA is the cats azz need a lesson in history. SWA was a last resort prior to 9/11 and now everyone thinks they are SO AWESOME!!! WHATEVA. SWA blows and I dont want to ever work there....and no I have never interviewed or intend to. LATER SUCKA'S!


p.s. I HAVE GAS.
 
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