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Just telling you what I heard. I'm sorry I didn't use the proper terms. This was told to me by a Chief Pilot. I didn't make it up.
I didn't think you did... I just understand how things get "lost in translation" the 3rd or 4th time they get passed around.

If they could figure out the engine issues, we'd be golden. We were having a discussion on our internal forum regarding why HAL doesn't seem to have the same problems. It's not the way we operate the aircraft (the computer adjusts the autothrottles from the application of takeoff power until idle is commanded in the flare), and it doesn't appear to be the single-engine taxi we do here (something like 97% compliance on single engine taxi-outs, which is pretty dang good, but it's not one engine or the other that seems to have a problem, even though we always start the same engine first, just like you guys do).

The only thing someone mentioned was that HAL rarely goes above the low 20k altitude range (sub-1 hour hops), where ours are usually in the low 30's. Leaves me wondering if it's the idle descent we're doing from higher altitude all the time and whether going from cruise to idle all the way down is somehow shock-cooling something internally.

By the way Ty, I will be in front of you on the combined list, regardless of the process used to come up with said list.
CAGE FIGHT!! :D :beer:
 
Staying out of everything else, but I heard that AirTran doesn't own the 717 sims and they are owned by Boeing/Alteon and AirTran leases the time. Is this true or is their another arrangement? Boeing does market 717 training in ATL, so it would make sense that they own the sims. I had heard this is why SWA is not bringing the sims to DAL.

Last I heard, they still were...?
 
Just telling you what I heard. I'm sorry I didn't use the proper terms. This was told to me by a Chief Pilot. I didn't make it up.

By the way Ty, I will be in front of you on the combined list, regardless of the process used to come up with said list.

If you are, you are, and if you aren't, you aren't. It matters not to me.

Why does it matter so much to you?
 
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Just telling you what I heard. I'm sorry I didn't use the proper terms. This was told to me by a Chief Pilot. I didn't make it up.



You've been irritable since you discovered "size doesn't matter" is a myth.

There's really no need for you to fear the 717 ......."Like a dog watching TV"

:D
 
If you are, you are, and if you aren't, you aren't. It matters not to me.

Why does it matter so much to you?

When you say "I want your seat, or this is no seat grab". I want you to know, I'm senior to you, and will be until you retire. So what you are saying is not true. :cartman:
 
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SWAFO, you really do crack me up. Have you really been in this business long enough to think you deserve my seat, yet you don't even seem to have a nodding understanding with how airplane are ordered, or power by the hour agreements, or countless other things? :erm:

Check out the DX reliability rate for the 717 against other comparable aircraft. I doubt you'll find any difference.

The engines may be hand grenades, but they are leased hand grenades. . . . and the aircraft dispatch very reliably right up to the point where they s the b. . . . ;)

Wether an arbitrator gives it to you or not, you do not deserve a captain seat at SWA. You know that, Ty. Even three year olds know what fairness is, they just have trouble showing it sometimes.
 
That's your opinion. Enjoy it. Take comfort in it. Revel in it. . . . . Your opinion, and two bucks will get you a glass of that fruity sissy wine you like on your next layover. . . .
 
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That's your opinion. Enjoy it. Take comfort in it. Revel in it. Your opinion, and two bucks will get you a glass of that fruity sissy wine you like on your next layover. .

Actually it's good 'ole house wine. Not bad really. But if you're not in touch with your "fruity sissy wine" side, then some long necks are $2.
 
I didn't think you did... I just understand how things get "lost in translation" the 3rd or 4th time they get passed around.

If they could figure out the engine issues, we'd be golden. We were having a discussion on our internal forum regarding why HAL doesn't seem to have the same problems. It's not the way we operate the aircraft (the computer adjusts the autothrottles from the application of takeoff power until idle is commanded in the flare), and it doesn't appear to be the single-engine taxi we do here (something like 97% compliance on single engine taxi-outs, which is pretty dang good, but it's not one engine or the other that seems to have a problem, even though we always start the same engine first, just like you guys do).

The only thing someone mentioned was that HAL rarely goes above the low 20k altitude range (sub-1 hour hops), where ours are usually in the low 30's. Leaves me wondering if it's the idle descent we're doing from higher altitude all the time and whether going from cruise to idle all the way down is somehow shock-cooling something internally.

How long do you idle your engines before shutdown?
 

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