SWA crew names released

[waveflyer]

Substantially faster than everyone else.

Seriously dead beaten horse my man-

What's got you obsessing-

You and I both have enough experience to know that a lot of guys are flat out not in a hurry bc they're paid by the minute-
I've done it. We've all done it- taxi time is the easiest way to add minutes that add up to a lot over a month.

But we don't get paid like you until we're 5 over block on schedules that are fairly tight and accurate.

Everyone else is padding their check.

And then the heavy factor. I've never flown a 330, but I'd probably taxi something with that mass a bit slower than a 73.

I know you fly to a lot of our west coast cities Dan. But look at those towns too. Long parallels in LAS, SMF, SAN

I suspect that you're simply upset that we prove you can guys taxi faster safely and that messes with your paid by the minute agenda- or you've actually come to believe that everyone is actually being safe instead of slow to make a point and using the safety card to justify it.

I work here and there's nothing culturally driving anyone to do anything but slow down if they need to.

I like that we do what we can safely do. It makes our company a lot of $$. But priority #1 is safety and it's driven home.

 

[K-Mart]

Fair enough. Riddle me this??? You fly a heavy that only does one leg to and from, but don't really get to see all our ops (700+ airplanes) operate daily. So percentage wise you are only using a few examples. I have seen regionals that taxi way faster than they should. Us not so much. I think our speeds are safe and are followed to the book.

Ha ha! He doesn't see Swa taxi much or he maybe he doesn't work at Hawaiian at all.

 

[Dan Roman]

Wave, I simply made the observation that SWA operates on the ground much faster than anyone else. I've seen a much greater percentage of SWA flights beat the crap out of their airplane than anyone else. As far as obsessing about it? Not at all, if you look, it's a bunch of SWA folks that have been keeping it going on here. It really isn't that big a deal.

 

[Dan Roman]

Ha ha! He doesn't see Swa taxi much or he maybe he doesn't work at Hawaiian at all.

K mart, you sound like a little kid with this comment, but I am flattered that you think so highly of Hawaiian that you consider it an insult to say " he isn't really a Hawaiian Air pilot!".

 

[K-Mart]

K mart, you sound like a little kid with this comment, but I am flattered that you think so highly of Hawaiian that you consider it an insult to say " he isn't really a Hawaiian Air pilot!".

You never know on this website who's pretending do we now? Just don't know why a A330 capt would be on Flightinfo talking about southwest taxi speeds and all else bout southwest, SLI ETC... There is a trend here with another poster. Sorry just seems strange.

 

[Dan Roman]

You never know on this website who's pretending do we now? Just don't know why a A330 capt would be on Flightinfo talking about southwest taxi speeds and all else bout southwest, SLI ETC... There is a trend here with another poster. Sorry just seems strange.

Well I think it's odd that someone would get on a website for all airlines and think their airline should have some kind of exclusivity? A lot of SWA posters on here, you guys bash ALPA, you bash other airlines and yet someone says something that strikes a nerve and you start in with "mind your own business"?
BTW it's obvious why I would have an interest in SLI strings (although I think HA merging is a bit of a long shot) but what's the other ETC you think I have posted on? I really don't have a problem with Lubbock.

 

[Dan Roman]

K Mart, ...I just looked, you are on the Delta strings bashing them! Seriously??? You call me out for getting on a SWA string when I don't work there and you are on the Delta strings bashing them?

 

[K-Mart]

Oh man...it's too obvious.

 

[waveflyer]

Dan, I think you just think it strikes a nerve.
Like you said in an earlier post, this is likely more an industry issue as every airline could have this go down, than a systemic SWA issue.

Which is why it's weird you're harping in SWA taxiing.
Have you heard the science axiom "Correlation does not equal causation"
Swa's taxi speeds and assumptions you make from what you've observed are more about you and your mindset than SWA.

put another way. I coughed during the Super Bowl and a commercial came on. My cough didn't cause the commercial.

 

[tankerhead]

You never know on this website who's pretending do we now? Just don't know why a A330 capt would be on Flightinfo talking about southwest taxi speeds and all else bout southwest, SLI ETC... There is a trend here with another poster. Sorry just seems strange.

+1

Some people get obsessed. Have you read some of Floppy's SWA rants? He's getting a little scary.

 

[Dan Roman]

I'm as tired of this as you guys, you are welcome to the last word. The conversation has gone from you guys saying SWA doesn't taxi any faster than anyone else to they do and the passengers like it. Whatever. It's really not that big of a deal.
What's odd though is characterizing anyone who gets in a cross airline discussion as obsessed. By far the larger percentage of posters on here seem to be SWA. Fair enough. You folks really seem to like to bash ALPA and other airlines. Than you can't understand why you get scrutinized for your positions. You seem to want to be able criticize all you want, but if someone says something about you that you don't like you get all up in arms.
BTW guys, attacking the messenger because you don't like the message isn't a very good rebuttal.

 

[canyonblue]

BTW guys, attacking the messenger because you don't like the message isn't a very good rebuttal.

It's the problem that the message is fiction. I know ten years ago that SWA pilots taxied fast, but now that is nowhere near the norm. As a matter of fact, when I see a fellow SWA pilot taxi fast now, it looks completely out of place. Are there some guys that still taxi too fast, sure, but it is nowhere near the large scale operation that you claim. Just don't get ticked if you get stuck behind me, I take my time. Of course some DAL, AA, UAL or even a HAL guy will probably bitch at that also.

 

[Dan Roman]

It's the problem that the message is fiction. I know ten years ago that SWA pilots taxied fast, but now that is nowhere near the norm. As a matter of fact, when I see a fellow SWA pilot taxi fast now, it looks completely out of place. Are there some guys that still taxi too fast, sure, but it is nowhere near the large scale operation that you claim. .

Well I said I was over it, but this is a very civil response. I believe you. We went through the same thing inter-island. We still have a few speeders, but there has been a major push to slow down and be standardized, so good to hear.
BTW as far as straight line speed, I'm surprised no one has made the observation that they have seen our A330's screaming by in LAS. The downhill run to 25R is a killer on brake temps. So the technique is to let the speed pick up to over 30kts before brake application.

 

[humveedriver]

Taxiing fast in a straight line isn't a big deal, until you have to stop quickly. Trying to taxi fast while turning will normally invite some free advice from the back end crew if they are walking through the cabin. I have to say I've seen, or rather "heard" a couple of hard/fast turns in the few short months I've been a SWA, and the back end crew never called up front. I chalked it up as a cultural difference. By "heard"I mean some galley items made it to the floor. I could care less about what the actual speed is. But try not to beat up the crew in the back or knock all the loose crap in the plane to the floor. As was stated above, it is the exception and not the norm now.

 

[waveflyer]

I'm as tired of this as you guys, you are welcome to the last word. The conversation has gone from you guys saying SWA doesn't taxi any faster than anyone else to they do and the passengers like it. Whatever. It's really not that big of a deal.
What's odd though is characterizing anyone who gets in a cross airline discussion as obsessed. By far the larger percentage of posters on here seem to be SWA. Fair enough. You folks really seem to like to bash ALPA and other airlines. Than you can't understand why you get scrutinized for your positions. You seem to want to be able criticize all you want, but if someone says something about you that you don't like you get all up in arms.
BTW guys, attacking the messenger because you don't like the message isn't a very good rebuttal.

Now that is part of the culture. There a far and away an insane amount of SWA haters- who talk so much trash, usually after they trash their own airline. So many act pissed that we're fairly content and happy.
Don't pretend Dan, that the hating didnt start w/ ALPA pilots

 

[Dan Roman]

Wave, it seems really odd to me the constant us vs ALPA mentality on here by so many SWA folks. Yes there are lot of miserable airline pilots, and most airline pilots are ALPA. But it's not the union, plenty of unhappy folks at APA and USAPA too. You guys are happy because of a good corporate culture that has had a good run of expansion, just like the Piedmont of old and yes the old Delta (their employees bought the company a 767). But you guys seem to think anybody that doesn't agree with you is attacking you and a hater. It's not so. GL is though but you guys are making him a rock star on here.