SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??

[ASADFW7]

Looking to make friends cobra?

 

[Crash Pad]

Pretty easy to do when you're at the bottom of the list. I'm glad you're not negotiating on my behalf, or for the rest of your fellow pilots.

Did you think before you wrote that, or were you that drunk at 10 a.m.?

Ty I stopped drinking and started thinking a long time ago.

I read the SWA contract. In a worst case scenario our pilots will make 2K more a month. Airtran pilots will earn this 2K more working less days a month. More money less work... thats the end of the discussion for me.

I know Ty... pay is temporary and seniority is forever. That thinking would keep you at Great Lakes for the rest of your life.

Here is my slogan. Compound interest is a mother********************er!!! No social security, no pension, forced retirement at 65, be ready to walk.

 

[Ty Webb]

Like I said, I'm glad you're not negotiating for me or your other coworkers. What you are doing right now is negotiating against us.

 

[texman]

Ty, what age frame are you in 30's 40's 50's?

 

[Kharma Police]

Ty I stopped drinking and started thinking a long time ago.

I read the SWA contract. In a worst case scenario our pilots will make 2K more a month. Airtran pilots will earn this 2K more working less days a month. More money less work... thats the end of the discussion for me.

I know Ty... pay is temporary and seniority is forever. That thinking would keep you at Great Lakes for the rest of your life.

Here is my slogan. Compound interest is a mother********************er!!! No social security, no pension, forced retirement at 65, be ready to walk.

I bet you are a TOUGH negotiator when you buy a car. Sticker price says 25,599, I'll pay you an even 30k, take my offer or leave it!

 

[ArcadiaMaxima]

If seniority is so important, why did one leave their last job to start at the bottom of either swa or at? If seniority is so important why does a very senior FO bid to the captain seat? It is all about the $$$$$ plain and simple.

 

[SWA/CA]

And you are a swa fo now, and will be one after the merger. No one cares about your view point or needs your input. The Trannys are smart folks.... it will be worked out.

What MERGER?

He is an FO that makes a lot more money then the Delta dude he was calling out, and probably you too. I doubt he is an FO still or in that case much longer.

 

[Dude]

Crash Pad,

I think your numbers, even at worst case, are a little low. Not starting a fight, I am just saying with the pay rate (remember trips, not hours and 105+ is the average with the ability to easily make and extra 10 - 30 trips/month without a lot of extra work), benefits etc. will bring the monthly difference to a bit more than you stated.

That is one of things I love so much about our pay - I can make 100TFP and have a ass-ton of time off or I can still have boat-load of time off and get an additional $1500 - $4000/month if I work smart and not hard. The beauty is to set your goal at 100 trips/month and everything else is graaaavy. BTW, personal experience - the bennies are so choice for the family.

Sorry for the creep........my d!ck is bigger than yours and I fly it like I stole it beotch!

 

[Ty Webb]

Ty, what age frame are you in 30's 40's 50's?

Mid-forties.. it's the new mid-thirties. if ya haven't heard.

 

[SWA/FO]

Whoa!!! More Delta dudes? Gonna tell us how great it worked out for u? Tell us again about your theory on the "one size fits all" solution for our SLI. Thats right OUR SLI not yours. Did I chime in on your SLI talks = no. Are you jealous about SWA?

Tranny dudes are smart, it will work out - without the Delta boys input.

 

[Lonestar]

I fly with ex-NWA guys every trip out of DTW, and I talk to them all the time about their SLI and their feelings on the merger. Some are ticked a bit, but most have gotten over it. They like the new airline now, have more choices, have better pay, and have moved on mentally away from the SLI. You will too eventually.
OYS

Wow...for once i agree with what OYS says. These same words will soon be spoken in reference to Trannies and their feelings on the SLI. It may sting a bit at first, but soon the better pay, more choices, etc will help them mentally move away from their feeling too.

 

[Lonestar]

Arbitrators won't see it that way. You will get a joint contract first (all successful recent mergers have done that, and USAir did not), and then your pay will be equal at that point. From there a SLI will be formed, OYS

Well, OYS, this clearly shows how little you know about this acquisition. First, there will not be a joint contract. Even AT ALPA acknowledges this fact. SWAPA will be the survivng union. Our CBA doesn't allow for re-opener in this case. Second, the PA which is the topic of this thread clearly states that the SLI will come before any portions of the SWAPA contract are extended to trannies. It further states that the length of time between an ISL and our pay/benefits depends greatly on the method by which the list is reached.

Feel free to respond with whatever uninformed bs you can think of and continue to prove to everyone how little you know about this acquisition.

 

[learherkjay]

It amazes me that you guys are still discussing this. How about you just let the process work.

 

[easydoesit]

No ********************.

 

[canyonblue]

This is not your fight OYS and you don't know what both sides know.

OYSuke:

The guy is a frickin TOOL! My bet is that he is a call sign kernal and definitely wears not only the hat, but also has long sleeves.

 

[Crash Pad]

Like I said, I'm glad you're not negotiating for me or your other coworkers. What you are doing right now is negotiating against us.

I'll make you a deal. I'll stop posting if you do also.

 

[Ty Webb]

I'll make you a deal. I'll stop posting if you do also.

I'm not posting what I expect or would be willing to accept. You're throwing your coworkers under the bus for 2000 lousy bucks/month.

 

[Uppercrust]

I'm not posting what I expect or would be willing to accept. You're throwing your coworkers under the bus for 2000 lousy bucks/month.

2000 lousy bucks/month would be a 30% pay raise for you wouldn't it?:laugh:

 

[SWA/FO]

I'm not posting what I expect or would be willing to accept. You're throwing your coworkers under the bus for 2000 lousy bucks/month.

I think its actually more like a lousy 4000+ a month. We are all smart enough to know that he speaks for one.

We also know Ty, that you want everything (cus you deserve everything) We know you are looking forward to the arbitrators’ hearing the case.

Which, in my opinion after reading the side letters and PA = the hard way.

 

[PCL_128]

I am glad Air Tran has the only "official" union member assigned to comment on Flight Info regarding the Acquistion. Haven't seen many SWAPA folks appointed as such..wonder why?

I haven't seen any AirTran pilot here claiming to be a union official.