SWA-AAI Going Rogue

[General Lee]

This is why I predict the trannies will never be integrated into SWA. Too much risk on Southwest's part with the lousy attitudes of the trannies. Bet the SLI never happens.

I bet you will be very upset after looking at the arbitrated SLI.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[B6Busdriver]

Ty, I can't wait to see you guys get what you deserve at swa. All your talking on here is a joke; you guys can't honestly believe the dross that you spout. Like I said, be grateful and happy that you will be at a company that you like to work for AND you make a lot more money, wherever you may fall. You guys are giving yourselves a VERY bad rap at swa before you even fall on the doorstep. Don't ruin a good thing. GK will not let you guys spoil the party, believe me.

Please excuse my dopey blue friend. He probably loves his "direct relationship" at Bluejet. I really hate to say it but I think the LUV brothers on this board ( many not all) have acted lack spoiled brats. I've been down this road before at Brand X and I would highly suggest that all of you spend your time on this board talking about the weather or college football. Or how about them Bears? Good luck to all of you! Seriously, the vitriol on both sides will damage many of you for the future creating resentment some will never get over. Just my experience........

 

[Bob Dylan]

I bet you will be very upset after looking at the arbitrated SLI.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Why would I be upset? I don't work for either airline. Just observing this insanity (from the trannies) from the sidelines.

You are my hero though! Have a fantastic new year.

 

[carl p]

This is why I predict the trannies will never be integrated into SWA. Too much risk on Southwest's part with the lousy attitudes of the trannies. Bet the SLI never happens.

You don't even work for AT, so you have no idea about Tranny attitudes. Given the challenges the AT pilot group has gone through the last 5 years, they continue to treat customers with respect and deliver a good product. I've known 20+ great guys from past lives that have gone on to SWA, and the overwhelming majority of pilots at AT are cut from the same cloth as them.

 

[climbhappy]

why wouldn't the arbitrator just whip out the Delta model and say, "here" we're done and just in time for lunch?

 

[MCDU]

why wouldn't the arbitrator just whip out the Delta model and say, "here" we're done and just in time for lunch?

Remember, you can not piss off the majority.

M

 

[27 driver]

why wouldn't the arbitrator just whip out the Delta model and say, "here" we're done and just in time for lunch?

Past precedent is only a part of the equation. You must insert SWA and AAI dynamics. Fact is nobody knows what the final outcome will be. If cooler heads prevail a deal will be struck without arbitration. If not a panel of 3 will decide. We as pilot groups will either have one vote per pilot or not.

Sure is fun watching all the "my dick is bigger than your dick" going on here though.

 

[Pilot Knob]

This is why I predict the trannies will never be integrated into SWA. Too much risk on Southwest's part with the lousy attitudes of the trannies. Bet the SLI never happens.

Lighten up, Francis. It was a joke. SWA pilots have a sense of humor....right? All of the ones I know are standup guys.

 

[Dash Power]

People speak of precedence. Precedence is used in matters of law and rules. If precedence is to be required in the arbitration, show me where. M/B establishes process and considerations.

Every integration/merger is on its own merits. Otherwise precedence would be strongly worded in both A/M and M/B. This integration is no like others in the past so it deserves consideration on its own merits.

 

[climbhappy]

I see where management delays contracts all the time. any chance of SWA closing the deal and keeping both ops separate for a while until this SLI thing is done? Because the labor savings would be the bargaining chip wouldn't it? or does AAI pay increase the next pay period when the deal closes? so will SWAPA use this with Mgts blessing to get AAI pilots to roll over? it seems plausible anyway... If AAI pilots delay, the given the raises, one might cost themselves 20 grand over 4 months?

 

[StopNTSing]

I think most of us think it's the SWA pilots with the lousy attitude.

You know Dan, when it's Hawaiian's turn in the M&A barrel, I don't plan on wading in to the threads with plenty of pompous prognostications about a situation I don't understand or have any skin in. How about extending us the same courtesy (in spite of our lousy attitudes?)

 

[Dash Power]

You know Dan, when it's Hawaiian's turn in the M&A barrel, I don't plan on wading in to the threads with plenty of pompous prognostications about a situation I don't understand or have any skin in. How about extending us the same courtesy (in spite of our lousy attitudes?)

Well put.

I can't understand the need for others to get so involved with issues that do not concern them. No one has asked for their infinite wisdom. Why do they feel the need to share?

The General thinks since he has lived through ONE arbitration of seniority lists that he is the undeniable expert on the process for every other future integration in the history of time. I have decided that 15,000 posts on this forum by any one individual is not a display of experience, but one struggling to make a name for themselves. It does no garner respect, it garners pity. It is not funny. Just plain sad.

 

[orangebellyav8r]

dash, what do expect from someone that thinks he and is airline are above everyone else. Remember back when, they were too good to ride the van with any other airline. Remember when no one was allowed on the jumpseat. Remember them walking thru the airport with their nose in the air. I can go on and on.

 

[General Lee]

Well put.

I can't understand the need for others to get so involved with issues that do not concern them. No one has asked for their infinite wisdom. Why do they feel the need to share?

The General thinks since he has lived through ONE arbitration of seniority lists that he is the undeniable expert on the process for every other future integration in the history of time. I have decided that 15,000 posts on this forum by any one individual is not a display of experience, but one struggling to make a name for themselves. It does no garner respect, it garners pity. It is not funny. Just plain sad.

I lived through the most successful SLI in recent history. There was plenty of bad blood prior to it, and since it has calmed down. That's my point, there is no use in trying to stir up bad blood prior to something THAT IS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL. All I keep saying is that each side will have lawyers that will fight for their side, and nuetrals will decide the outcome. Keep showing your unbelievable cockiness, I don't care, I actually think it is funny sometimes. It is just making you look even worse than your normal selves. And I really can't wait for the outcome, because there will be a lot of you that will be eating crow, and it will be great to see. Entertainment at it's finest. My deal here is to try to get you to tone it down a bit, so as to prevent your total colapse when it finally does arrive. Have a great one!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Dash Power]

I lived through the most successful SLI in recent history. There was plenty of bad blood prior to it, and since it has calmed down. That's my point, there is no use in trying to stir up bad blood prior to something THAT IS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL. All I keep saying is that each side will have lawyers that will fight for their side, and nuetrals will decide the outcome. Keep showing your unbelievable cockiness, I don't care, I actually think it is funny sometimes. It is just making you look even worse than your normal selves. And I really can't wait for the outcome, because there will be a lot of you that will be eating crow, and it will be great to see. Entertainment at it's finest. My deal here is to try to get you to tone it down a bit, so as to prevent your total colapse when it finally does arrive. Have a great one!


Bye Bye---General Lee

Just plain sad.

15,000 posts are you are not cocky.....rrriiigggghhhttttttt.

 

[General Lee]

dash, what do expect from someone that thinks he and is airline are above everyone else. Remember back when, they were too good to ride the van with any other airline. Remember when no one was allowed on the jumpseat. Remember them walking thru the airport with their nose in the air. I can go on and on.

We have been replaced in that department by YOUR UNBELIEVABLE COCKINESS. You guys think you walk on water, even though you are flying an old 737-300 in West Texas. Congrats on your great wages and Regional-like trips. Bring it down a bit, really. Many on here (FI) agree.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Just plain sad.

15,000 posts are you are not cocky.....rrriiigggghhhttttttt.

It's not the quantity, but the quality, and most have been right on topic. I think you should spend a few days reviewing all of them, you just might learn something.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Dash Power]

We have been replaced in that department by YOUR UNBELIEVABLE COCKINESS. You guys think you walk on water, even though you are flying an old 737-300 in West Texas. Congrats on your great wages and Regional-like trips. Bring it down a bit, really. Many on here (FI) agree.


Bye Bye---General Lee

In the same statement you say someone is cocky and then you slam them with an aspect about their company, and then you tell them to "bring it down a bit".

What the hell is wrong with you?

No longer sad, but pathetic.

 

[Dash Power]

It's not the quantity, but the quality, and most have been right on topic. I think you should spend a few days reviewing all of them, you just might learn something.


Bye Bye---General Lee

If I review 15,000 posts I will find some quality that has been absent lately?

Who the hell goes back and reads someones old posts? Oh please don't say you. I can't go anywhere from pathetic.

 

[General Lee]

In the same statement you say someone is cocky and then you slam them with an aspect about their company, and then you tell them to "bring it down a bit".

What the hell is wrong with you?

No longer sad, but pathetic.

Time to bring you back to Earth. When it comes to your SLI, you need to bring it down a bit with your future "brothers/sisters" at AT. You can slam me all you want, it doesn't bother me at all. I am just trying to "help" out your pompous group and prevent later hardship after you eventually see the SLI results. You're welcome.


Bye Bye--General Lee