Strike/Netjets

[El Chupacabra]

We don't hate anyone.

We are simply ridiculing the ideas suggested that our company could run this place without us by hiring Scabs replacement pilots or by simply chartering 100% of our trips.

The main intent of the troll who started this thread was to sugest that I better not vote to strike otherwise he'll come and take my job....

 

[J3 Guy]

What is a troll? I might have one of those digging up the ground around the hanger.
About the strike,Maybe I will check the situation over in June/July but on the other hand I cant work for J3 Cub/Netjet wages.

J3 Guy

 

[Live4flyng]

These " industries" are more similar than you would like to admit. How many people do you think are coming to NJA now because they have other options? I would guess most of your new hires are furloughed major and regional pilots with no place else to go. And the rest are those with an ATP and a pulse willing to work for substandard pay.

As it was mentioned in another post, the owners will probably be on the side of management (that is who they are).
Go on strike, maybe some of those high paying corporate pilot jobs that went to the "underpaid Frac pilots willing to work for peanuts (or left over catering) will return to the private sector.

Read my post again da90drivr. There is nothing similar about an RJ pilot that isn't qualified to be hired. I wasn't talking about furloughed or retired major airline pilots. As far as the strike comment, we may just have to! Have a nice day.

 

[Hawk Driver]

You may be right, However my corporate job has now transitioned to a 135 operator, We already do netjet contract stuff. Somebody would have to check the numbers, but there is probably already enough supplemental lift in place to make any strike difficult to succeed.

There isn't enough supplemental lift in the entire country to cover what we fly on our busiest days. I know for a fact that our charter people cannot accomodate all of the sell-off we have on many days. Our company has a list of "approved" vendors we use for sell-off, not everyone makes it on the list...

HD

 

[Hawk Driver]

BTW, I can't believe that everyone is getting so worked up over what J3 started here. He came here to stir the pot and everyone is playing right into him... We are all very passionate about the contract and it shows in the responses. Just slow down and realize J3 is a troll like someone else pointed out.

HD

 

[PseudoName]

Contrary to what you think, our passengers hate when their trips are sold off. In fact, many of them threaten to get out of the program if the company sells off their flight one more time. Do you still enjoy working for Netjets? Enjoy it while it lasts.

Hey, not to get in a pi$$ing match with you. However, I believe our operation might be an exception to the rule. Every 9 out of 10 flights we fly for Net Jets, your passengers always comment on how our airplanes are not "beat up" like the QS planes.

Sure, NJA could pull the plug, go ahead, there is plenty of business out there...maybe for a company who pays their bills on time. NJA is consistently late with every payment.

 

[El Chupacabra]

I had the problem of them paying late too... until I caved in and got the company credit card.

 

[smellthejeta]

You think NetJet pilots will be replaced by scabs??? Nope, all your flights will be covered by contract vendors who are already doing the majority of your work.

Go ahead, strike, your passengers like having an airplane that is not beat up and a crew that enjoys who they work for.

You got any hard numbers for that? From my observations, on an average day, NetJets (including the GIV/GV) probably flies over 90% of their flights. EJM planes will pick up some of the slack, and every now and then they'll use contract venders. "Peak travel days" are a different story, and you'll see much, much more contracts vendors flying their trips.

CitationShares on the other hand... On this side of the country, I see more vendor trips than I do see actual CS planes.

 

[EngineOut]

Just STRIKE. Screw it.

 

[AirBear8]

What kind of payscale will you guys be looking for in a new contract. I know that 100K at year five is a big point, but what kind of F/O payscale is the union asking for.

Thanks

The failed TA had F/O base pay rates starting at $33500 ($39K for reserve schedule) going up to $38540 (44040) by year 5. Year 5 Captain's pay was $69000 base, $80000 for reserve. Base pay for Captains didn't go over $100K until year 12, and then only for the larger jets. 82% of the pilots voted this down. So I would expect a new TA to have better rates than this.

I'm impressed with the solidarity the NJA pilots have. Much better than the ALPA represented airlines I've been at. There's a chance the Republican Administration would order a Presidential Emergency Board to delay a strike and possibly impose a contract, but I think they'd have a hard time justifying it since there wouldn't be a "major" disruption to the nation's air travel.

But I would expect the contract talks to go right up to a strike deadline, that's just the nature of these things.

AirBear