Spirit T/A Details?

[Crzipilot]

Don't think that says "new hire" pay, think it's pay while in training prior to being released to the line???? As it says you will be paid via section 4, if training takes longer than 90 days, through no fault of the pilot. then he'd goto first year pay, though not much better. 38.50 / 72hr.

 

[Whine Lover]

Fun with numbers:

Frontier / JetBlue - Airbus 10 yr. Captain - $ 130,800 avg. annual guarantee

Frontier / JetBlue - Airbus 5 yr. F/O - $ 75,540 avg. annual guarantee


Spirit ( new contract ) - Airbus 10 yr. Captain - $118,998 annual guarantee

Spirit ( new contract ) - Airbus 5 yr. F/O - $ 65,966 annual guarantee






YKW

 

[silverfish]

I haven't read the TA and dont plan to, but if these numbers are correct, why would your MEC sign off on that?

Fun with numbers:

Frontier / JetBlue - Airbus 10 yr. Captain - $ 130,800 avg. annual guarantee

Frontier / JetBlue - Airbus 5 yr. F/O - $ 75,540 avg. annual guarantee


Spirit ( new contract ) - Airbus 10 yr. Captain - $118,998 annual guarantee

Spirit ( new contract ) - Airbus 5 yr. F/O - $ 65,966 annual guarantee






YKW

 

[scarlet]

below pay and lose 150% opentime....4-6 capt pay rates joke! Scope huge bulletholes in it. The 4 days off between trips is nice. There are some nice things.


If you get a pay raise but lose 150% (which used to supplement a little more money) and the 150% goes away you really did not get any more money.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

First Officer Pay Rates
Years of Service DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3 DOS+4
1 38.50 38.50 38.50 38.50 38.50

Mmmmm. New hires. Breakfast of ALPA Champions.

 

[BigMeat]

Really hope you guys vote no. Shame on alpa. F U Prater!!!

 

[jonjuan]

First Officer Pay Rates
Years of Service DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3 DOS+4
1 38.50 38.50 38.50 38.50 38.50

Mmmmm. New hires. Breakfast of ALPA Champions.

No kidding. Combined with new hire training pay, a year one F/O is right around CAL year one pay. With most new hires these days older and with families, how many actually think this is right? Just like giving regionals flying, Who cares, it doesn't affect me."

 

[flygirlqt]

I really feel for the Spirit pilots because this is shaping up to be another ALPA screw job.

 

[jonjuan]

Airtran management now has another labor cost tool to use as leverage in negotiations. With the labor savings relative to their competition, Spirit management can now continue to provide deep discounts to passengers which will slowly, but methodically take business and marketshare away from the other LCCs (and even Majors). Just wait to see the pricing pressure placed on the rest of the industry in a few years as Spirit doubles/triples in size. I'll bet they make more than $100MM/year for themselves over the next few years.

 

[samballs]

Another ALPA failure.