Spirit + ERAU?

[get2flyin]

Well, I gotta defend Riddle again.

Of course I can't speak about any other university because I only went to Riddle, but I can tell you that for avaition studies I can't imagine a better place.

I used knowledge from my aeronautical degree on the Cathay interview 12 years after I graduated.

Many things I learned in systems, auto flight, and aeronautics classes I have used to better my understanding of both military and civilian avaition.

I don't like to toot my horn, but I have achieved EVERY aviation goal I have ever strived for from flying fighters to float planes to 747-400's. I owe Embry Riddle for giving me the tools to reach those goals.

Because of my degree I was selected to be a test and evaluator for the EA-18G program at the Boeing factory in St. Louis. That was a high point in my career.

I was a military reservist and had a job while going so don't think we all rely on funny money.

Go to Embry to help with you aviation career, then get better rounded by getting a masters is something else.

BTW - I got laid plenty there. You just have to avoid the "Neo-maxim-zoom-dweby" trap.

You got laid there? You must have driven a 'Vette or something similar. Just kiddig you, man. I agree. It's an AWESOME education. Certainly worth the money I paid in the early '90s. But do you know it costs nearly 50K/year now(*including tuition, fees, housing, meal plan, and flight courses)? Bridge programs straight into majors, if they really exist (and I hope they don't), are nothing more than admissions tools to attract students who don't know anything about the industry. Sadly, I would think it would cause a backlash within the industry of "he's not setting foot in my cockpit", and probably rightfully so. 200-300 hr wonder-children are dangerous as flight instructors, let alone 121 pilots, even if the Prescott campus has an A320 sim (which I am ashamed to say they do).

 

[GogglesPisano]

Ask yourself this, "If this was offered to me when I was a new pilot would I have taken it." I think most people would answer yes to that question.

That doesn't make it right.

Some people might find $100 on the sidewalk and keep it. It doesn't make it right.

Some airlines hired women and minorities with much lower qualifications than white males. It doesn't make it right.

I have a good friend at Spirit. He tells me the line pilots are furious that they have to subsidize Spirit's hunt for cheap pilots by flight instructing in an Airbus.

That's not right.

 

[climbhappy]

i asked myself and remembered i thought a turbo arrow was hot to handle. a mooney 252 was a rocket. at 250 hrs i wasn't $hit on a stick. still ain't , but pretty soon i'll be asst greenskeeper...i've got that going for me...

 

[Jonny Sacko]

Which is good

 

[suupah]

before you know it the majors will be paying 20k a year to new FO's. They'll get them all day long from erau and other academies.

 

[castle bravo]

"I have a good friend at Spirit. He tells me the line pilots are furious that they have to subsidize Spirit's hunt for cheap pilots by flight instructing in an Airbus."

That's not right.

What else would you expect out of Franke and Ex-Con-Jon?

 

[castle bravo]

I have a good friend at Spirit. He tells me the line pilots are furious that they have to subsidize Spirit's hunt for cheap pilots by flight instructing in an Airbus.

That's not right.

What else would you really expect out of Franke and Ex-Con-Jon?

 

[GogglesPisano]

What else would you expect out of Franke and Ex-Con-Jon?

I'd expect nothing more from management. But the fact that some airline pilots here are defending the practice by rationalizing that it's a good deal for the ERAU-graduates really surprises me.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

I'd expect nothing more from management. But the fact that some airline pilots here are defending the practice by rationalizing that it's a good deal for the ERAU-graduates really surprises me.

OK, so even it it wasn't ERAU, it if was UND, or Auburn, or Ohio State, it's still a good deal for those students at the time. This doesn't represent a shift in how airlines are hiring. In a broadstroke, it was a trial program, which worked out successfully thus far. They are all on line now. I think there is a lot of resentment on here from pilots who did not have the same opportunity. This business is all about being at the right place at the right time.

 

[BrazPilot]

Flew with one of our checkairmen the other day. He said everybody at the training dept was very surprised with the "wizz kids" performance. Doing way better than expected and so far the program is has been working fine.
I'm not in favor of it, but I must admit that if had that opportunity back in my Riddle days, I would have humbly done my best to study, keep up and succeed.

 

[flyboycmsu]

Not all of them have passed ioe...

 

[Captain Morgan]

I hope the Captain doesn't pass out and they don't have to take the reigns and make command decisions because they'll have nothing in their bag of tricks to rely on. I know that a lot of people will say that "back in the day in the sixties they hired people with 250hrs..." Back in the day they also had a Flight Engineer to help them out and manage systems. I think this is utter crap, not because I'm jealous either. These kids just don't have the time and experience and it's going to bite everyone in the butt someday.

 

[starchkr]

"BTW - I got laid plenty there. You just have to avoid the "Neo-maxim-zoom-dweby" trap."

...DUDES DON'T COUNT!!!!! Unless of course your degree was in male flight attendant relations. :laugh:

 

[The Victors]

Flew with one of our checkairmen the other day. He said everybody at the training dept was very surprised with the "wizz kids" performance. Doing way better than expected and so far the program is has been working fine.
I'm not in favor of it, but I must admit that if had that opportunity back in my Riddle days, I would have humbly done my best to study, keep up and succeed.

being able to program the airbus autopilot is NOT anywhere close to having quality experience. Imagine if the media knew about this.

 

[Skybus]

Give your fragile egos a break. Its NOT brain surgery. Lets look at most/nearly all countries of the world and their new hire aviators. Lets use Luthansa (sp?). All young recent graduates from out here in the desert flying around in a Bonanza. Its not as difficult as you would like to believe to stroke your egos otherwise most of the FI people would have never got where they are. Emery Riddle is a great school with a good program.