Southwest slam clicks- c'mon captains....

[HowardBorden]

I meant to say it earlier -This is a really good post.
(can be the type A mil types too who went to the "zoo", right into uber achievements...and on- but have definitely seen it firsthand on the civilian side.)

You also see the flip side of that in the overcompensaters who try too hard at the bar. Wierd to see pilots pushing 30 acting like frat boys

We're all adults- if you're worried about the PC police, maybe you ought to work on that inner d-bag that comes out after a few? Maybe? Just be cool and be you

You know, I've never done or said anything on an overnight that I would feel uncomfortable explaining to the Chief Pilot if ever questioned about it.

I go downstairs to meet crew members probably 85% of the time and it is not completely out of the ordinary to meet up with "most" of the crew members that I came in with. Maybe I am naive, but I judge the audience and keep my behavior equally or less baudy than those that I am conversing with and I have never once fealt like I stepped over the imaginary line that might have me explaining my behavior to my superiors.

I won't lie and say I haven't heard stories from others where they were unfairly targeted as being "inappropriate" and then doing the carpet dance, but I ussually feel like there must be more to the story than I'm being told or that individual wouldn't be asked to explain the situation. Again, maybe that is a naive view but it is solely based on my own experience. I will add that I'm very happily married and am never trying to get laid on overnights, which is where I think most folks get themselves in trouble.

 

[waveflyer]

Well said Howard.

But I'll illuminate the getting laid crowd as well. "Trying" to get laid is what gets guys in trouble. You're not a frat boy. Work on yourself outside the bar. Physically. Socially. Get on an internet dating site and go on lots of dates (the world is full of women who just want a decent guy with a job who's not a leech). If you don't spend enough time with women, it will make you weird around them. Make yourself more interesting. Live in ways that make you more confident.
You get far more women, and much better quality of interactions when you stop TRYING so hard and just be a human being.
I always let the woman drive the getting laid train. You still got to be a man- know the signs and make your move- but learn to feel it out. Guys get into trouble when they pressure a situation to close the deal. (Dumb too, bc usually, if it's going to happen at all, a little more patience and better timing and it will happen. If not, let it go)
You never want either of you to wake up regretting. That's when it's really not cool anytime, but especially mixing it with work. This idea though, that you have to avoid the bar bc you might do something... C'mon. Grow up and live a little.
If you fear that, you need to get to work on yourself and stop pretending the problem isn't in the mirror.

 

[Turtle21]

Wow. Can we go back to advice on just buying the crew a round? Please.

 

[Sy-bill]

Well said Howard.

But I'll illuminate the getting laid crowd as well. "Trying" to get laid is what gets guys in trouble. You're not a frat boy. Work on yourself outside the bar. Physically. Socially. Get on an internet dating site and go on lots of dates (the world is full of women who just want a decent guy with a job who's not a leech). If you don't spend enough time with women, it will make you weird around them. Make yourself more interesting. Live in ways that make you more confident.
You get far more women, and much better quality of interactions when you stop TRYING so hard and just be a human being.
I always let the woman drive the getting laid train. You still got to be a man- know the signs and make your move- but learn to feel it out. Guys get into trouble when they pressure a situation to close the deal. (Dumb too, bc usually, if it's going to happen at all, a little more patience and better timing and it will happen. If not, let it go)
You never want either of you to wake up regretting. That's when it's really not cool anytime, but especially mixing it with work. This idea though, that you have to avoid the bar bc you might do something... C'mon. Grow up and live a little.
If you fear that, you need to get to work on yourself and stop pretending the problem isn't in the mirror.

This is literally the strangest diatribe I have ever read on any forum.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

Yeah....um....this just got weird dude.:erm:

 

[waveflyer]

No
What's weird is watching some of these guys at the bar
Then confused and blaming the "PC world" for why they're getting called into the chiefs

But hey- Take it or leave it- in almost 9000 posts I'm sure there's more than a few strange ones from this FI troll

 

[Dash Power]

Holy Schnikes!

How does one's mind even get to a place like that.

 

[waveflyer]

Ok, now you guys are just being dumb
That was over the top, so don't post with a hangover wave- but again- it's probably those who need to hear it, that won't. And those who don't who are wtf?
First, What did you think? I got to 8700 posts by the tremendous thought I put into each post? FI troll - guilty. .

But back to the thread-
THE POINT- my only point and I apologize if it got lost- is THAT IF YOURE AFRAID OF THE PC POLICE- LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
You guys have the confidence to fly an airliner in every situation, but not in going to the bar without getting called in. C'mon?
Like howie, I may be naive, but for every one case of wrongfully accused I've heard the real story on ten others painted that way, that we're actually a guy doing wrong.
Just keep in mind that you are at work and have fun with that there. Just keep in control.
Just be cool, don't be douc:, and buy a round- even if the attention isn't on you.

Then google the person who said this and ask what he would do

“I've found that many of the greatest ideas surface in bars because that's where many people cultivate inspiration.”

 

[densoo]

Uncle Rico?!

"Stop wishin' an' call me when you're ready."

http://youtu.be/ASGt9BIj_Xo

I always let the woman drive the getting laid train. You still got to be a man- know the signs and make your move- but learn to feel it out.

 

[crxpilot]

Well said Howard.

But I'll illuminate the getting laid crowd as well. "Trying" to get laid is what gets guys in trouble. You're not a frat boy. Work on yourself outside the bar. Physically. Socially. Get on an internet dating site and go on lots of dates (the world is full of women who just want a decent guy with a job who's not a leech). If you don't spend enough time with women, it will make you weird around them. Make yourself more interesting. Live in ways that make you more confident.
You get far more women, and much better quality of interactions when you stop TRYING so hard and just be a human being.
I always let the woman drive the getting laid train. You still got to be a man- know the signs and make your move- but learn to feel it out. Guys get into trouble when they pressure a situation to close the deal. (Dumb too, bc usually, if it's going to happen at all, a little more patience and better timing and it will happen. If not, let it go)
You never want either of you to wake up regretting. That's when it's really not cool anytime, but especially mixing it with work. This idea though, that you have to avoid the bar bc you might do something... C'mon. Grow up and live a little.
If you fear that, you need to get to work on yourself and stop pretending the problem isn't in the mirror.

With all due respect.....you're really full of yourself. I bet everytime you pass the mirror you give a little "gunshot" at yourself to show how much you admire yourself.

 

[Sy-bill]

Ok, now you guys are just being dumb

And you dude, are just acting......touched.

And you blame this on a hangover. Considering the topic, this gets more and more strange.

 

[PCL_128]

Eh, definitely a weird diatribe, but there's a lot of truth in it, too. I've seen an awful lot of pathetic 40-somethings hitting on the 21 year old stews at the bar who are obviously very uninterested and very uncomfortable. If you're worried about the PC police, maybe it's because you need to learn to keep it in your pants. Not saying that there aren't legitimate cases of guys being accused of things they didn't do, but the vast majority of the time, the guy was just being a creepy weirdo.

 

[wood pecker]

Very weird, PCL and Wave not arguing.

 

[PCL_128]

Very weird, PCL and Wave not arguing.

We agree on a few things.

 

[Ty Webb]

Hey, I skip FI for a few days, and stumble onto this one. . . . . been pretty boring lately, at least this thread gave me a few grins.

Wave, if you really want to challenge yourself, try to combine the work out, sleep routine AND dating advice into one big post . . . . we'lll call it "Living Large with Wave" and make it a sticky.

Regards,
Ty