Southwest off the runway at MDW

[regionaltard]

I have no respect for any of these cheap shots by a bunch of dicks! :angryfire
Hopefully, nobody is/was hurt. None of us know what happened.

Your righteous indignation would carry more...wait, scratch that....some weight if you got as hot and bothered when your fellow SW pilots spray all over the board.

 

[canyonblue737]

guy on CNN says he is a pilot that "trained with SWA" and others refer to him as a "former SWA pilot." he then procedes to say a bunch of stuff that anyone who worked here would know is wrong. who is steve cowell?

 

[HalinTexas]

If you've ever operated in MDW on a regular basis you'd understand that it's a different animal. (no F9 pun intended).

DCA is different, LGA is different, but they can all be rather challenging. If you've operated there, you'd understand.

Operationally, I doubt that any changes to MDW or Chicago operations will change as a result of this. If you've operated there, you'd understand.

Even with all the speculation, critiqueing, criticism, MDW is a viable airport. It could be better.

 

[AAflyer]

Canyon,

I got the impression he was an intructor pilot (retired), are those guys line guys? Not sure where the others are getting the interns from, Jim Dent sounds halfway decent, (remember they are trying to talk to the masses, not specifically pilots), the other guys was 737,777 pilot from CAL.

Glad everyone is ok, don;t much like MDW in good weather. Hang in there guys.

AA

 

[canyonblue]

guy on CNN says he is a pilot that "trained with SWA" and others refer to him as a "former SWA pilot." he then procedes to say a bunch of stuff that anyone who worked here would know is wrong. who is steve cowell?

FAA database shows a Steven Cowell from Denver with FE, 727, 737 Ratings. The other "expert" was ROBERT SPROC. Both these guys have CFI and AGI certificates. Why is it these are the guys that believe they are the so called "experts" and must lend a hand to the investigation.

 

[FLYnMONKEYS]

Hey can one of you SWA guys answer a question? Most places I have worked prohibit a landing on a contaminated runway with a tailwind no mater what the numbers say, can you guys do that?

 

[Capi_Cafre']

Hey can one of you SWA guys answer a question? Most places I have worked prohibit a landing on a contaminated runway with a tailwind no mater what the numbers say, can you guys do that?

Did it just get really quiet in here or what?

 

[filejw]

Texas,Could be better? The place is a dump except for the new terminal.Starting 1972 I have operated G11, N265, DC 9 10 30 40 50,B727 100/ 200, B757 200/300 and A320 into MDW and I always knew that even if I did everything perfect this is the one place I could really get burned.I always like a challenge but in reality its not fair to the pax to lower our safety standards. MDW is marginal for a jet in winter period. This snow scenario was one of my prime concerns.The other is having to land with a tailwind because of ORD traffic.Sounds like tonight we had both.These guys most likely were right on the money.SWA guys are 99% real good sticks.

 

[AAflyer]

FAA database shows a Steven Cowell from Denver with FE, 727, 737 Ratings. The other "expert" was ROBERT SPROC. Both these guys have CFI and AGI certificates. Why is it these are the guys that believe they are the so called "experts" and must lend a hand to the investigation.

Rob Sproc is a pilot for AA, with thousands of hours on the 737-800.
He is also a quality individual.

AA

 

[trip]

2 adults 3 kids in the car- Hope all get out allright, doesnt sound good.

 

[MarineGrunt]

8 year old boy is dead. You d!cks happy now??

 

[BigHangar]

Looks like CNN is reporting that a boy was killed...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/08/chicago.airplane/index.html

 

[canyonblue]

Rob Sproc is a pilot for AA, with thousands of hours on the 737-800.
He is also a quality individual.

AA

That may very well be, but for the life of me I cannot understand why any "quality individual" would offer their opinion to the media, when the public would take it as fact. Airline pilots should know better, it's easy "no comment".

 

[PCL_128]

That may very well be, but for the life of me I cannot understand why any "quality individual" would offer their opinion to the media, when the public would take it as fact. Airline pilots should know better, it's easy "no comment".

He didn't speculate at all on the cause of the accident. He was thankfully providing a little bit of good information to the media that is always clueless about things like this. Would you prefer to have an experienced 737 pilot talking about this or CNN's Miles O'Moron who putts around in his Bonanza on the weekends? Take your pick, because CNN is going to put someone on the air to talk about it.

 

[COpilot]

Thats a tough call MDW with the snow.

Can a HP person answer,

1. do you all use the auto-brakes?
2. can you accept tailwind landings with snow?

 

[difete]

I wonder with all the snow and ice i see on the CNN shots what the reported braking action was on those runways?

What a sad story.

 

[BlueBusDriver]

SWA at MDW...........

My sincere, heartfelt sympathy goes out to all those involved.
No one likes to here of something so terrible happening.
For those who feel that this is the perfect oportunity to jab at SWA.....
Don't. There is loss of life in this one. Be kind. This could have easily happened to any carrier operating into such a demanding airport in demanding weather conditions.


BBD

 

[AAflyer]

That may very well be, but for the life of me I cannot understand why any "quality individual" would offer their opinion to the media, when the public would take it as fact. Airline pilots should know better, it's easy "no comment".

I do not know WHY he spoke, or what agreement he has, I guess the same could be made from everyone from John Nance, to Jim Dent. You should direct that question to them. To answer you sepcifically, your question of who this individual was smacked with a tone of "who is this low time flight instructor".
I gave you his stats, and also my opinion of the individual I have met and spoken with. I have read a lot more crap on this thread, than an airline pilot being asked his opinion. Do I care much for the media and they way in which they attack a story, NO, but this is the USA. The things which make this country great are also it's downfall.

Now, to end this topic with you, I am truly sorry a boy lost his life, however I am greatful your crew and passengers are "ok". I wish you all well.

AA

 

[E120ASA]

you get what you pay for.

 

[Sig]

8 year old boy is dead. You d!cks happy now??

You are fucking right, sir.
the censorship; you're exactly right. A kid died. CHILD! A little boy is dead. If any of you giddy pukes have given the rest of humanity the misfortune of breeding, it's our loss.

A crew gets to live with this forever, playing the whatifs until they fly west.

THIS IS CHRISTMAS. A kiddo ain't gettin' his 8th (or 6th, depending on the veracity of the reports) santa visit, a crew gets to try to sleep on that at night, and some of you swine play gas station cheap shots.


My thoughts to all involved. Good luck.