Southwest Nose Gear Collapse LGA

[CRJ puppy]

Maybe, the big rut at the runway intersection had something to do with this, and its time to fix it! Always a rough ride over that bump.

Who lands THAT long on 4?!

 

[tankerhead]

At least we know the NO TR and No Nosewheel gear broken off landing distance is, 2175ft.

:laugh: Awesome. Bet the engineers have been laying awake at night about that data since the sixties.

All kidding aside, this could happen to any of us. We get very comfortable wrestling with 130,000 (plus or minus) pounds of aluminum and winning the match, but every now and then, someone loses. We are in control most of the time, until we're not, and if you think it can't happen to you, well....

 

[chqflyer]

https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/3059_412870198822530_91248800_n.jpg

That'll buff right out.

 

[SENECAII]

There was a bright light that flashed in the pilot flying's eyes...oh wait,that has already been used.

 

[glasspilot1]

All kidding aside, this could happen to any of us.

Tanker, I think you're over simplifying this with that comment. One similarity between Asiana and this WN accident is that they both warranted a go-around and they both continued to the crash. I think that all air carriers (at least in this country) flight ops policy is that "go-arounds are free". If you are on an approach that warrants a miss, and you continue and there's an accident I would not call it a "this could happen to any of us" thing.

 

[Tripower455]

Tanker, I think you're over simplifying this with that comment. One similarity between Asiana and this WN accident is that they both warranted a go-around and they both continued to the crash. I think that all air carriers (at least in this country) flight ops policy is that "go-arounds are free". If you are on an approach that warrants a miss, and you continue and there's an accident I would not call it a "this could happen to any of us" thing.

Can you provide a link to the NTSB report? I can't seem to find it.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

There was a bright light that flashed in the pilot flying's eyes...oh wait,that has already been used.

Hersman says they're "totally gonna look in to that. . pfffft."

 

[scoreboardII]

Tanker, I think you're over simplifying this with that comment. One similarity between Asiana and this WN accident is that they both warranted a go-around and they both continued to the crash. I think that all air carriers (at least in this country) flight ops policy is that "go-arounds are free". If you are on an approach that warrants a miss, and you continue and there's an accident I would not call it a "this could happen to any of us" thing.

Please link to the NTSB report on your comment, thanks in advance.

 

[Dan Roman]

Please link to the NTSB report on your comment, thanks in advance.

...or just a picture of the Chairman of the NTSB will do.

 

[captain007]

NTSB: Evidence from video & other sources consistent with nose gear making contact with runway before main gear of SWA 737.

https://twitter.com/NTSB/status/360515365178064897

SWA: Altitude was 32 feet, airspeed was 134 knots, and pitch attitude was 2 degrees nose-up 4 seconds prior to touchdown. All approx.

https://twitter.com/NTSB/status/360516831120855040

At touchdown at LGA, the SWA 737's airspeed was approximately 133 knots and the aircraft was pitched down approximately 3 degrees.

https://twitter.com/NTSB/status/360516983629938690

 

[LJ45]

"At touchdown at LGA, the SWA 737's airspeed was approximately 133 knots and the aircraft was pitched down approximately 3 degrees."


ouch......

 

[zymotic]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/25/travel/southwest-laguardia/index.html

Washington (CNN) -- The Southwest Airlines jet that crash landed at New York's LaGuardia airport on Monday met the runway with its nose gear first, according to federal accident investigators.

The unusual landing configuration is the surest clue yet as to why the Boeing 737s front landing gear collapsed and the plane skidded down the runway.

The National Transportation Safety Board said video and other sources provide evidence that the "nose gear (made) contact with runway before main gear."

 

[Hpilot]

There is a reason it's called a nose gear and not a landing gear. A lot of us have pounded it in after a long tiring day, but nose first??? Prior to the previous string of off runway excursions i had heard go-arounds were discouraged. I had really hoped the safety culture at SW had changed. Thank goodness there were only minor injuries.

 

[Britpilot]

Upgrade relatively inexperienced first officers?! My upgrade is going to be a twenty year upgrade!

★Sent from my Galaxy S4★

My upgrade will be never so I guess you're lucky.

 

[Tripower455]

Prior to the previous string of off runway excursions i had heard go-arounds were discouraged. I had really hoped the safety culture at SW had changed.

GMAFB.

Where do you people get this nonsense?

Go arounds were NEVER discouraged, officially, or unofficially at SW.

SW still has one of the best safety records of any airline, and is far better than most.