Southwest could lose 121 Certificate

[CaptAntoineMack]

It sure will be CLOSER to relative THAN A STAPLE, THAT IS DARN SURE. Delta brought numerous improvements to NWA's contract, and it was RELATIVE. IT'S CALLED PRECEDENT, LOOK IT UP. And thank gawd Air Tran just got a new contract, to help bring them up closer to your SWA contract. But eventually, you will all have that current SWA contract, and will share seats up front. HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR DUDES!


Bye Bye--General Lee

I can go with it being closer to relative seniority for sure. Your condensending remark about precedence is without common sense. So because your almighty Deltas (which is going to experience a large loss of profit in Atlanta due to the presence of Southwest) seniority arbitration ended up with relative seniority has now set a precedence that every other integration of lists will now have to be given, even with very different dynamics, for the history of time. Why didn't the legislation just put that in the bill and just be done with it.

Sounds like the logic of a third grader.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Nothing good will come from this thread. Trust me, I'm a USAirways Westie.....

 

[27 driver]

Guys, just relax a little and take a deep breath. Nobody knows what the final outcome will be. Its all just speculation. There is no one size fits all in SLI. Just enjoy the holiday season.
Cheers

 

[clippyrip]

Delta brought numerous improvements to NWA's contract

No they didn't, pay was about the only thing. 75 hour reserve, equal pay for rotations (res. vs reg.), commuting policy, etc to name a few. The pay raise combine with the decrease in contract improvements equaled a pay cut for most former NWA pilots.

 

[Raoul Duke]

whoever wrote the first post has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

 

[orangebellyav8r]

Dude

If it wasn't for SWA, you would not have a contract like you got. As for DAL/NWA it is apples and oranges. DUDE. You can have your rat hole ATL. By the way, you will not have DAL, MDW, BWI, MCO, HOU, LAS, PHX, OAK. Best of luck DUDE

 

[scoreboardII]

I'm always amazed at folks first post on their christmas mini-webernet machines

 

[Ty Webb]

Please show me where Bond McCaskill requires SWA to merge operations!

Hint: It is not there.

It is in AirTran's pilot contract, and it is binding upon any merger or purchase of 51% or more.

 

[orangebellyav8r]

Good luck with that one. And I guess you think SWA didn't have any say in what you got.

 

[Ty Webb]

I know you're struggling to catch up, Chief, but those basic protections were in our 2001 Contract as well.

As for the crappy 2010 Contract, we were actually hamstrung by the pending merger. With a 98% strike vote, we were in the drivers' seat, until the SWA announcement came out. The SWA announcement worked against us, big time. I don't expect you to understand this; I am writing for anyone else who may be reading this.

 

[Dash Power]

It is in AirTran's pilot contract, and it is binding upon any merger or purchase of 51% or more.

This is not a merger so that is not a player. In our contract we have a similiar provision only if we buy someone. Is yours worded the same way? Would you mind sharing the wording of that section of your contract?

 

[General Lee]

No they didn't, pay was about the only thing. 75 hour reserve, equal pay for rotations (res. vs reg.), commuting policy, etc to name a few. The pay raise combine with the decrease in contract improvements equaled a pay cut for most former NWA pilots.

How about sick call? I would say EVERY NWA pilot likes the new sick call policy--AKA call in, and not give a note. How about new bases? How many FNWA guys now are based out West and down South? How about Greenslips? FNWA guys are cleaning up on that one. And it seems PLENTY of FNWA pilots voted for the joint contract. Whatever, dude.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Dude

If it wasn't for SWA, you would not have a contract like you got. As for DAL/NWA it is apples and oranges. DUDE. You can have your rat hole ATL. By the way, you will not have DAL, MDW, BWI, MCO, HOU, LAS, PHX, OAK. Best of luck DUDE

This guy is smoking dope. And, Arbitrators will look at the USAir debacle SLI and the DL/NWA SLI to help determine yours. Enjoy it.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

This is not a merger so that is not a player. In our contract we have a similiar provision only if we buy someone. Is yours worded the same way? Would you mind sharing the wording of that section of your contract?

It's not a merger? Gary Kelly has stated so in many articles. And, the arbitrators will seperate the krap from each contract and determine the list. Your lawyers will fight it out, and then you will get to share cockpits with Ty. You had better be nice, he will likely be your Captain.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[roughneck]

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