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kwick

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If Southwest shows an inability or
Unwillingness to comply with FAR/DOT
Regulations, or Bond-McKaskil
Legislation could SW lose their
Certificate.

With a history of non-compliance
With maintenance and safety regulations,
Could their efforts to circumvent
Federal Law in their SLI with AirTran
Lead to the loss of their Operating
Certificate.

In that case they would be forced to use
The AT Certificate.Maybe the SW guys
Should look for a fair solution, and
Not a "Seat-Grab Windfall"
 
If Southwest shows an inability or
Unwillingness to comply with FAR/DOT
Regulations, or Bond-McKaskil
Legislation could SW lose their
Certificate.

With a history of non-compliance
With maintenance and safety regulations,
Could their efforts to circumvent
Federal Law in their SLI with AirTran
Lead to the loss of their Operating
Certificate.

In that case they would be forced to use
The AT Certificate.Maybe the SW guys
Should look for a fair solution, and
Not a "Seat-Grab Windfall"

Wow, good point. Never thought about that.
 
SWA knows how to grease the wheels right. I'm convinced that they would keep their certificate even if metal is hanging from the wings on their airplanes.

= They will never lose their certificate
 
If Southwest shows an inability or
Unwillingness to comply with FAR/DOT
Regulations, or Bond-McKaskil
Legislation could SW lose their
Certificate.

With a history of non-compliance
With maintenance and safety regulations,
Could their efforts to circumvent
Federal Law in their SLI with AirTran
Lead to the loss of their Operating
Certificate.

In that case they would be forced to use
The AT Certificate.Maybe the SW guys
Should look for a fair solution, and
Not a "Seat-Grab Windfall"

Your drug test has been scheduled for tomorrow.
 
Please show me where Bond McCaskill requires SWA to merge operations!

Hint: It is not there.
 
Out of both all the SWA pilots and Airtran pilots on this board, the Tranny pilots come off as spoiled children.

This thread is an excellent example of this point. God help Southwest with the acquisition of these misfits.
 
Wow another pilot/lawyer that slept in a Holiday Inn express last night.

Please quote BM ALPA national has said that not merging may violate the spirit of BM but not the express language of BM.

Good enough?
 
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One thing is for sure, it AIN'T GONNA BE A STAPLE. The SWA guys had better prepare for that. Arbitrators will decide, and Airtran does bring a lot to the table. Other than that, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR DUDES!


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
One thing is for sure, it AIN'T GONNA BE A STAPLE. The SWA guys had better prepare for that. Arbitrators will decide, and Airtran does bring a lot to the table. Other than that, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR DUDES!


Bye Bye--General Lee

And one thing for sure, it AIN'T GONNA BE RELATIVE SENIORITY. The Airtran guys had better prepare for that. Arbitrators will decide, and Southwest does bring MONUMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS to the table. Other than that, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR DUDES!
 
And one thing for sure, it AIN'T GONNA BE RELATIVE SENIORITY. The Airtran guys had better prepare for that. Arbitrators will decide, and Southwest does bring MONUMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS to the table. Other than that, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR DUDES!


It sure will be CLOSER to relative THAN A STAPLE, THAT IS DARN SURE. Delta brought numerous improvements to NWA's contract, and it was RELATIVE. IT'S CALLED PRECEDENT, LOOK IT UP. And thank gawd Air Tran just got a new contract, to help bring them up closer to your SWA contract. But eventually, you will all have that current SWA contract, and will share seats up front. HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR DUDES!


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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It sure will be CLOSER to relative THAN A STAPLE, THAT IS DARN SURE. Delta brought numerous improvements to NWA's contract, and it was RELATIVE. IT'S CALLED PRECEDENT, LOOK IT UP. And thank gawd Air Tran just got a new contract, to help bring them up closer to your SWA contract. But eventually, you will all have that current SWA contract, and will share seats up front. HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR DUDES!


Bye Bye--General Lee

I can go with it being closer to relative seniority for sure. Your condensending remark about precedence is without common sense. So because your almighty Deltas (which is going to experience a large loss of profit in Atlanta due to the presence of Southwest) seniority arbitration ended up with relative seniority has now set a precedence that every other integration of lists will now have to be given, even with very different dynamics, for the history of time. Why didn't the legislation just put that in the bill and just be done with it.

Sounds like the logic of a third grader.
 
Guys, just relax a little and take a deep breath. Nobody knows what the final outcome will be. Its all just speculation. There is no one size fits all in SLI. Just enjoy the holiday season.
Cheers
 
Delta brought numerous improvements to NWA's contract

No they didn't, pay was about the only thing. 75 hour reserve, equal pay for rotations (res. vs reg.), commuting policy, etc to name a few. The pay raise combine with the decrease in contract improvements equaled a pay cut for most former NWA pilots.
 
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